road america ver.2

[sn8kbit]

ok, there's a lot to sum up so here goes...

first off, great nailing down new friendships. heck, i think that's what 70% of open-tracking is all about. i don't know which was more fun, hanging out around the trailers and dinner at night or the driving...
tom, nice to finally get to know ya, and thanks for all the tips on RA, they helped me move faster thru 5-8. now when are ya putting the girlie girl racing sticker on...LMAO!
tone, nice to formally meet ya. i've talked to you guys for a second or two at last years RA, and the last two road atlanta's i've done. sorry the car went down on ya, but man did that thing scream when it was running!

some tech i learned over the weekend:

eibach springs are good for two things...
1) for looks on a lowered vehicle, and the occasional exit ramp fast exit.
2) legs for a glass top coffee table
i had more body roll than i thought i would with these in conjunction with the stock shocks/struts. it made it very unnerving in a quick right-left turn at speed (T-13). these are coming off the car and are now for sale, and CHEAP too (did i mention i'd sell em CHEAP?) bilstien's and H&R's are going on hopefully this week, if not sooner.

khumo ecsta 712's. wow. for the money, a great tire, IMHO. i was worried about them since the only track experience with them was wet, which was decent, and autocrossing, which inhaled with great vigor. so, RA being a super fast track, i was worried i wouldn't have anywhere near the grip i'd need. i was wrong. now mind you, i'm slow compared to everyone else so what works for me may not for others, but when these tires are screaming at you, they're working. spooked me at first, but for an overtall tire (255/45/17) in the first place, without scrubbing the sides with rollover, i liked em. if tires are low on the budget, these should fit nicely.

brakes. this was my first outing on a dry track (believe it or not with dean and brian there) and hawk blue pads. being a novice i tend to be on the brakes sooner and much longer. combined with the SHM ducts and hoses, and eradispeed rotors, i had zero fade, and still have possibly another weekend on these pads. heck, i didn't even melt the dust boots on the calipers, which surprised me. i can't say enough about the eradispeed solid front rotors. blues can be rough on a rotor, and the grooves i did have were very light. the drive home on street pads cleaned them up.
something else of note on brakes, if you don't have stainless lines, get em. and, if you feel like dropping the money (like i did out of paranoia over the brembo hat issue) get a set of solid eradispeed fronts. i have a feeling i've already gotten my money back on them in not having to buy another set of rotors already.

lastly, two things.
1) RA has a new name for corner 14--"Kevin's Corner"

2) Brian Groth is actually pretty durn fast....LMAO

steve
life is too short to miss Road America events.... (sorry tom LOL)

PS, darius rudis has pics up on his site, www.dariusrudis.com

{edit} as a sidenote, i grilled, and nothing exploded....LMAO! {/edit}

[Dean95CobraR]

Originally posted by sn8kbit
{edit} as a sidenote, i grilled, and nothing exploded....LMAO! {/edit}

Aditional side note - He wasn't allowed to actually start the grill this time. Hence - no explosion. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[kevin]

where does he find the time to take so many photos AND drive

[johnbasf]

Steve, thanks for the link to Darius's site. I MUST go there!!!!!

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by sn8kbit

lastly, two things.
1) RA has a new name for corner 14--"Kevin's Corner"

2) Brian Groth is actually pretty durn fast....LMAO



I only drove fast enough to stay ahead of Kevin, once I had a 3 lap lead from his beach trip, the rest of the weekend was a breeze. ;)

Hey BD, I actually shifted into third gear once just to see if the car would hit 80 on the long strait. :D :D :D :D :D :D :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[kevin]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
I only drove fast enough to stay ahead of Kevin, once I had a 3 lap lead from his beach trip, the rest of the weekend was a breeze. ;)

Hey BD, I actually shifted into third gear once just to see if the car would hit 80 on the long strait. :D :D :D :D :D :D :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


beach bully:p ;)

[Big Daddy]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
I only drove fast enough to stay ahead of Kevin, once I had a 3 lap lead from his beach trip, the rest of the weekend was a breeze. ;)

Hey BD, I actually shifted into third gear once just to see if the car would hit 80 on the long strait. :D :D :D :D :D :D :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Dang 80mph in the older slower....MUST BE SOME KINDA RECORD! ;) ;) ;) ;) :D :thumbsup:

[tgentry]

Hey Steve, nice to know that my ramblings about the track actually helped you out some. I don't know anything about explosions but those ribs were mmmm-mmm good!

I ran Kuhmo ECSTA 712's on Friday after having some teething problems with my new Victoracers. I got the Victoracers hooked up on Sunday. Running G-Force R1's on the front and Victoracers on the rear was good for 10-12 sec. a lap over the street tires. The street Kuhmos didn't suffer any chunking or abnormal wear even though my video confirms that I had them howling in every turn. All in all, I have to agree with Steve on the 712's, as long as you can put up with the noise.

[b_tone]

Darius now has two of my timed laps on video at his site at link to video (http://www.dariusrudis.com/)

I am driving in Tone #1, my father is driving in Tone #2.

enjoy

[sn8kbit]

tom, 10-12 seconds? dayum! i may have to pony up for a set of wheels just for some hoosiers......hmmm

tone, that car is wicked fast. this was my first dry track, and my first session out your dad was behind me! talk about intimidation, they couldn't get the green out on track fast enough. i now know what a "rolling chicane" is....LOL

[b_tone]

Tom, 10-12 seconds seems like quite a jump from street tires to R compound's. I have seen about 6 seconds on a big track, but the jump you are talking about is huge. Were you holding back with the street tires and then just let go with the R compounds?

If you want to really have a lesson in car control I have some 2-3 year old hoosiers that I can give away that I promise will be like driving on ice. Any takers?

I know all about the rolling chicane. I have taken my stock street driven Focus ZX5 to a track event just to get time on the track and was put out with the big boys swinging vipers, vettes, porches ect. That was pretty interesting but enjoyable.

BT

[sn8kbit]

if anything, i'd be willing to bet that the way the khumo street tires scream, it tends to make you back off the throttle more. i know it spooked the hell out of me the first couple of sessions...

[b_tone]

You should hear the mud and snow firestones on the focus. You can tell exactly where that car is on the track just by listening. I found that street tires will tell you exactly what they are doing and give you a big warning when they let go versus the hoosiers that are there until they are gone all while not letting out any sound.

Street tires can be fun..

[tgentry]

Originally posted by sn8kbit
if anything, i'd be willing to bet that the way the khumo street tires scream, it tends to make you back off the throttle more. i know it spooked the hell out of me the first couple of sessions...

I think Christa and my video (actually the audio portion) can attest to the fact that I don't back off for tire scream. In my group, most of the cars had R tires and I was pushing hard to keep up in the Carousel. Still I was about 800rpm down in 3rd gear on street tires. I'll have to put a stopwatch on the Carousel but I'll bet there's a few seconds right there.

[bolt-on]

Hey......this is J bolt-on......just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the wonderful weekend!!!!!!!! It was great being with all of the fun people..........thanks for letting us be a part of your group.
It was a thrill for me to drive the "powder puff" run.....even got up to 110 on the straights.......and the last/best ride was with Kevin....thanks, even if Lisa had the best thrill on Kevin's corner.
Looking forward to having more time together.
Janice

[kevin]

Originally posted by bolt-on
Hey......this is J bolt-on......just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the wonderful weekend!!!!!!!! It was great being with all of the fun people..........thanks for letting us be a part of your group.
It was a thrill for me to drive the "powder puff" run.....even got up to 110 on the straights.......and the last/best ride was with Kevin....thanks, even if Lisa had the best thrill on Kevin's corner.
Looking forward to having more time together.
Janice


glad ya enjoyed it:thumbsup:

butt you never did ask for a SPIN;)

[97whitevert]

Best thrill Janice?? hmmmmm don't know about that :rotf: but the weekend was definetly a blast!!!! thanks to all for the fun and friendship!! :thumbsup: :bounce::bounce:

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by kevin
glad ya enjoyed it:thumbsup:

butt you never did ask for a SPIN;)


yeah i 'asked ' for a spin ;) ;)

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by 97whitevert
yeah i 'asked ' for a spin ;) ;)

But did you ask to go to the beach also???:D :D :D :D

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
But did you ask to go to the beach also???:D :D :D :D


weeeelllll actually.........:D :D :D :D

[tgentry]

Janice, glad you and Larry had a good time. Let's all plan to do it again next year!:bounce:

[sn8kbit]

Originally posted by tgentry
Janice, glad you and Larry had a good time. Let's all plan to do it again next year!:bounce:

ditto tom. this is one event i plan to never miss.

larry and janice, glad you guys enjoyed it!

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
But did you ask to go to the beach also???:D :D :D :D

glad you didn't use they winky face there.... i not in the mood to be smacked:eek: :eek: :eek: :rotf:

[STU]

Originally posted by bolt-on
Hey......this is J bolt-on......just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the wonderful weekend!!!!!!!! It was great being with all of the fun people..........thanks for letting us be a part of your group.
It was a thrill for me to drive the "powder puff" run.....even got up to 110 on the straights.......and the last/best ride was with Kevin....thanks, even if Lisa had the best thrill on Kevin's corner.
Looking forward to having more time together.
Janice


It was great meeting you and Larry too Janice. I had fun riding with Larry. Here are the pictures I took on Friday. If anyone wants the full size picture to print off email me and I will send it to you.

http://cobrapages.com/september2002ra/index.htm

[sn8kbit]

dave, great pictures! :thumbsup:

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by sn8kbit
dave, great pictures! :thumbsup:

Ditto!!! Good job, Dave

[kevin]

great photos all around dave. especially the group gathering photos:thumbsup:

[97whitevert]

cool pics Dave!!!!!! :D

[STU]

thanks everyone.

[bolt-on]

Dave, you were our guardian angel Thursday, after going through the bumper to bumper traffic in Chicago to run into you and Steve and getting us from Chicago to Pylmouth. Your coaching on the track Friday resulted in fast times safely and enjoyably. Dean took over Sunday to start that day's sessions safely. Thanks to both for the coaching. Remember, never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly ;)

[STU]

http://www.svtcobraclub.com/svtbbs2/attachment.php?s=&postid=79202

That was a scary ride!:eek:

[STU]

Originally posted by bolt-on
Remember, never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly ;)

Now you tell me....;) :rotf:

[bolt-on]

Let the stories begin.........

[bolt-on]

True story!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[kevin]

Originally posted by bolt-on
Let the stories begin.........


that is a photo of brian corrupting lisa and steve with the mini-soda light weight human oil:D :rotf:

[kevin]

Originally posted by bolt-on
True story!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


now there's some Real human oil:D :rotf: :rotf:

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by STU
http://www.svtcobraclub.com/svtbbs2/attachment.php?s=&postid=79202

That was a scary ride!:eek:

Hey, That looks like the winning scooter from the famous Hallet scooter race. LOL:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by kevin
now there's some Real human oil:D :rotf: :rotf:

Kevin!!!!!!!!! I went and looked in my trailer tonight, how dare you!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[kevin]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
Kevin!!!!!!!!! I went and looked in my trailer tonight, how dare you!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: like the preverbial boomerrang:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
Kevin!!!!!!!!! I went and looked in my trailer tonight, how dare you!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[BecBec]

Originally posted by bolt-on
True story!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Is Kevin a two-fisted drinker????????:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by BecBec
Is Kevin a two-fisted drinker????????:eek: :eek: :eek:

He seems to be when I am around, you don't suppose I drive him to drink.....do you?:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[BecBec]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
He seems to be when I am around, you don't suppose I drive him to drink.....do you?:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: Shirley not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by BecBec
Shirley not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


he was getting ready to hand one over to me!!!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[BecBec]

Originally posted by 97whitevert
he was getting ready to hand one over to me!!!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: So Brian drives you to drinking also??????????/ :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by BecBec
So Brian drives you to drinking also??????????/ :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

yup he doo!!!!!:eek: :eek: ;) ;)

[tgentry]

Originally posted by bolt-on
Remember, never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly ;)

Do Griggs and MM sell guardian angel upgrades yet? :D

[kevin]

Originally posted by 97whitevert
he was getting ready to hand one over to me!!!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

:yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: she wanted REAL beer :D

[kevin]

Originally posted by tgentry
Do Griggs and MM sell guardian angel upgrades yet? :D

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

there must be extra speed angels since brian doon't need any:D :D ;)

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by tgentry
Do Griggs and MM sell guardian angel upgrades yet? :D

Never saw the angel on thier website, but maybe it wouldn't hurt to ask. ;) ;) ;)



Man, I just noticed your signature.......you deffinately fit in with the crowd in here, Tom. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D :D :D

[kevin]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
[Man, I just noticed your signature.......you deffinately fit in with the crowd in here, Tom. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D :D :D [/B]

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: see, he doo have time to read :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: right on tom:thumbsup:

[tgentry]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
Man, I just noticed your signature.......you deffinately fit in with the crowd in here, Tom. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D :D :D

It took you long enough! I wonder what else I can get away with. :rolleyes:

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by tgentry
It took you long enough! I wonder what else I can get away with. :rolleyes:

yep, except for passing while in the touring group. ;):D :D :D :D :D

[Dean95CobraR]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
Hey, That looks like the winning scooter from the famous Hallet scooter race. LOL:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Yep and don't forget that it is the signature edition.:thumbsup:

[Dean95CobraR]

Originally posted by BecBec
So Brian drives you to drinking also??????????/ :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


After my first ride with Brian, I was the one that should have been drinking.:eek:

[tgentry]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
yep, except for passing while in the touring group. ;):D :D :D :D :D

Go ahead, say it... Girlie Girl Touring :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by Dean95CobraR
After my first ride with Brian, I was the one that should have been drinking.:eek:

How about the second ride??:D :D :D

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by tgentry
Go ahead, say it... Girlie Girl Touring :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Tom,
I would never even think of making a comment like that. That is more in line with what the "other" guys would say, not me. ;):rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by kevin
:yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: she wanted REAL beer :D


ayup!!! absodootley!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[kevin]

Originally posted by Dean95CobraR
After my first ride with Brian, I was the one that should have been drinking.:eek:

if you drink first the ride will go faster:D

[kevin]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
Tom,
I would never even think of making a comment like that. That is more in line with what the "other" guys would say, not me. ;):rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


:doubt: :doubt: :doubt: :doubt: :doubt: :doubt: :doubt: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: ;)

[tgentry]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
Tom,
I would never even think of making a comment like that. That is more in line with what the "other" guys would say, not me. ;):rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

As Kevin would say... :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:

[tgentry]

Originally posted by kevin
:yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: she wanted REAL beer :D

As I recall, Dewey was the only one drinking beer that night. The rest of us were just drinking barley pop. :D

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by tgentry
As Kevin would say... :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :doubt: :doubt: :doubt:

[kevin]

Originally posted by tgentry
As Kevin would say... :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:


thanks tom for not making me doo it again:thumbsup:

[tgentry]

I think I'm getting the hang of this! :bounce:

[bolt-on]

Yep......we did have fun with that barley pop:rotf:

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by tgentry
I think I'm getting the hang of this! :bounce:

yup U R:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by bolt-on
Yep......we did have fun with that barley pop:rotf:

now what was it that kevin said that made me mad??????:eek: :eek: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[bolt-on]

Originally posted by 97whitevert
now what was it that kevin said that made me mad??????:eek: :eek: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Think it was Brian that said something........
not sure who or what, but you did not like it!!!!!!!
JB

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by bolt-on
Think it was Brian that said something........
not sure who or what, but you did not like it!!!!!!!
JB

LOl something insignificant i'm sure!!:D :rotf: :rotf:

[kevin]

Originally posted by bolt-on
Think it was Brian that said something........
not sure who or what, but you did not like it!!!!!!!
JB

yea, i don't think it was me. after all i was the one suppling you with REAL beer :thumbsup:

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by kevin
yea, i don't think it was me. after all i was the one suppling you with REAL beer :thumbsup:


oh yeah it was brian!! i musta had a bit of real beer that clouded my thinking and memory!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: