Caution to racers

[95cobraR]

Caution:

If you are upside down and on fire you may be going a little too fast!!

[flynfink]

Originally posted by 95cobraR
Caution:

If you are upside down and on fire you may be going a little too fast!!

And if you are upside down, be very careful about releasing your belts.;) ;) ;)

[black94cobra]

Another thing to remember if you are upside down and release your belts.........keep your helmet on! :bump:

[ac427cobra]

If you are upside down in your car, try to retrace your tracks that put you in that position and NOT do that move again!:thumbsup:

[kevin]

and if you're upside down and spinning................you're either a teenage mutant ninga turtle or think you're dean:D

[Big Daddy]

I was wondering who would get AROUND to that! :D ;) Gee Kevin if you're upside down spinning and in the grass who does that make you??? :eek: :eek: :eek: ;) :D

[Dean95CobraR]

Originally posted by kevin
and if you're upside down and spinning................you're either a teenage mutant ninga turtle or think you're dean:D


KEVIN!!!!! ;)

[Dean95CobraR]

Originally posted by Big Daddy
I was wondering who would get AROUND to that! :D ;) Gee Kevin if you're upside down spinning and in the grass who does that make you??? :eek: :eek: :eek: ;) :D



:yup:

[cobrabitn]

If you are upside down, spinning in the grass, and blaming track conditions or someone else for making you do it then you are

Kevin!

[kevin]

Originally posted by cobrabitn
If you are upside down, spinning in the grass, and blaming track conditions or someone else for making you do it then you are

Kevin!

you guys are wrong..................i've never been upside down:D :rotf:

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by kevin
and if you're upside down and spinning................you're either a teenage mutant ninga turtle or think you're dean:D

Some people give a wave bye, and dean does it a little more formally by pointing to you from the windshield......usually a couple times;);)......whats wrong with that? Seems very friendly to me. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by kevin
you guys are wrong..................i've never been upside down:D :rotf:

.........In a car anyways. :D :D :D

[kevin]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
.........In a car anyways. :D :D :D


so i guess an airplane is the exception?:D

[Cobra-R]

Originally posted by kevin
so i guess an airplane is the exception?:D

no exceptions without deceptions. ;) :D :thumbsup: :rotf: :rotf:

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by kevin
you guys are wrong..................i've never been upside down:D :rotf: butt you have been to the beach....:rotf: :rotf:

[97whitevert]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
no exceptions without deceptions. ;) :D :thumbsup: :rotf: :rotf: thought it was that no deceptions are the exception :grinangel:grinangel

[Dean95CobraR]

Originally posted by 97whitevert
thought it was that no deceptions are the exception :grinangel:grinangel

:yup: Lisa, I think you made an exceptional observation.:D

[kevin]

Originally posted by 97whitevert
butt you have been to the beach....:rotf: :rotf:

learned to swim at an early age;)

[kevin]

Originally posted by Cobra-R
no exceptions without deceptions. ;) :D :thumbsup: :rotf: :rotf:

ah...................a deceptive spin if i ever saw one;)

[Black Horse]

Just something that may come in handy.....if you are spinning, upside-down.....





Just how do you get the stains out of ones headliner?

:rotf:

[Dean95CobraR]

Originally posted by Black Horse
Just something that may come in handy.....if you are spinning, upside-down.....





Just how do you get the stains out of ones headliner?

:rotf:


You use Brian's patented "Doo-be-gone". Just like the old saying "necessity is the mother of invention" :D

[Frank N. O.]

Excuse me but I just want to ask the moderator if he has recieved the email regarding 95 Cobra R data I sent? If you can't help me then I would really appreciate an answer anyway.

Greetings
Frank Oreskov

[GUMBALL]

To quote Mario Andretti
"if you are in a crash, and it all goes quiet......count to 10 very slowly before releasing your belts.......you might not have landed....yet....." :D

[Cobra-R]

Excuse me but I just want to ask the moderator if he has recieved the email regarding 95 Cobra R data I sent? If you can't help me then I would really appreciate an answer anyway.

Greetings
Frank Oreskov

Not sure how often the moderator checks this board, send it to me and I will see what I can do to help you.

Brian
grothimp@cannon.net

[scocher]

Caution:

If you are upside down and on fire you may be going a little too fast!!

CORRECTION: If you are upside down and on fire you WERE going a little too fast!! :mad:

[My Cobra]

dang you guys alwase make me laugh. lol

[scocher]

dang you guys alwase make me laugh. lol

Laugh? Us? :doubt: We're nothing but SERIOUS folks :clown: There's no jocularity around here :jk: We know nothing of humor :dunno: No goofing around with us :banana: No partying :woot: :hatparty: :drunk: Nothing but SERIOUS Cobra business going on in these posts :cheers: :banana: :banana: :moon: :naughty:
:bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[97whitevert]

Laugh? Us? :doubt: We're nothing but SERIOUS folks :clown: There's no jocularity around here :jk: We know nothing of humor :dunno: No goofing around with us :banana: No partying :woot: :hatparty: :drunk: Nothing but SERIOUS Cobra business going on in these posts :cheers: :banana: :banana: :moon: :naughty:
:bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
only e/i posts-- totally! :thumbsup: :grinangel :grinangel

[scocher]

only e/i posts-- totally! :thumbsup: :grinangel :grinangel

FYI: e/i means educational and informative :thumbsup:

[95cobraR]

Racing makes a heroin addiction seem like a vague wish for something salty.

[ac427cobra]

Racing makes a heroin addiction seem like a vague wish for something salty.

Doc:

Actually a heroin addiction might be cheaper?!? :eek: ;)

[95cobraR]

Actually a heroin addiction might be cheaper.

I think you are correct which reminds me of the old saying "If you want to make a small fortune racing, then start with a large one"!

Bob Bondurant: "Fearlessness won't get you any place but in the hospital, but combine that extra bit of daring with smoothness, consistency, and precise control and you've just discovered that one bit of necessary character that will make you a successful racing driver. If you aren't scaring yourself a bit at the limit then you are probably going too slow and aren't at the limit."

Bob's best advice: "Use the brakes to help you steer into a corner and use the throttle to help steer out of the corner".
:thumbsup:

[kevin]

I think you are correct which reminds me of the old saying "If you want to make a small fortune racing, then start with a large one"!

Bob Bondurant: "Fearlessness won't get you any place but in the hospital, but combine that extra bit of daring with smoothness, consistency, and precise control and you've just discovered that one bit of necessary character that will make you a successful racing driver. If you aren't scaring yourself a bit at the limit then you are probably going too slow and aren't at the limit."

Bob's best advice: "Use the brakes to help you steer into a corner and use the throttle to help steer out of the corner".
:thumbsup:

touche

[95cobraR]

No, my mustang is not leaking oil, it is only marking it's territory, the race track...

OK, sorry, more Bob Bondurant: "Smoothness is more than just an aspect of technique, it is a state of mind".

"By trail-braking you maintain chassis set. The front shocks and springs are compressed and you maintain a forward-directed weight transfer creating more downforce on the front wheels. This increases the tire contact patches, which maximizes traction and provides better control".

[ac427cobra]

No, my mustang is not leaking oil, it is only marking it's territory, the race track...

OK, sorry, more Bob Bondurant: "Smoothness is more than just an aspect of technique, it is a state of mind".

"By trail-braking you maintain chassis set. The front shocks and springs are compressed and you maintain a forward-directed weight transfer creating more downforce on the front wheels. This increases the tire contact patches, which maximizes traction and provides better control".

Does that make you faster?!!? ;)

[95cobraR]

Does that make you faster?!!? ;)

Nope! It sounds easy when you read it, but it's alot harder than it seems (as you know)! I guess it doesn't hurt your lap times to keep studying Bob's words of wisdom.

Bob's words: "The GT40 was an incredible car. I remember going down the Mulsanne straight at 212mph. I got so I could do the kink near the end of the straight without lifting then brake hard for the 45mph Mulsanne corner. Incredible! That car worked so super it was unbelievable. A fantastic car to drive!"

Bondurant won the World Manufacturers Championship in 1965 (in a Shelby Cobra). And, of course, one of the only Americans to help win the World Championship title. He also taught James Garner how to drive when Garner did the "Grand Prix" film.

Bob on the Watkins Glen race in 1967. "I was traveling at about 150mph ([mycomment] Bruce, you've been there) coming out of the last corner onto the top straight, when a steering arm broke....I could see a bad one coming! First, I shut off the engine (I didn't want to blow it up)......I released my grip on the wheel so I wouldn't break my thumbs, wrists, or arms ([my comment] that's hard to think about when it happens)...... I was really fortunate... I only ended up with a shattered right heel, two broken ankles, a chip out of a verteba, and a chunk out of my forehead. The good news was that I was alive and could be repaired".

This guy must eat hot pistons for breakfast! :thumbsup:

[ac427cobra]

DOC:

I met Bob Bondurant when I took a course out there. Amazing guy!!

:D

[95cobraR]

Scott Pruett, Three-time T/A Champ &(corvette driver):

"The Kink is always tough, no matter what kind of car you're in. It's just not forgiving at all. If you drop a wheel there, you have an accident--a big one. It's kind of bumpy, and the road falls away at the exit, so you never feel comfortable, but if you want to put a Champ car on the pole at Elkhart Lake, you've got to keep that sucker flat through there. The Kink is pleasure and pain. When you get it right, you feel a lot of satisfaction. But then you think, 'Oh ****, I've got to do it again in four miles'".

[95cobraR]

Mario Andretti:

"The Tunnel Turn was one of those intimidating corners where, every time you got through, you said to yourself, '@#&%, I should have stood on it.' There's a big bump in the middle, so you can really get into trouble. Nobody was fast at Pocono right away. You had to work up to it, and take all your courage. In qualifying, I would take a deep breath. You could do it flat, but you had to talk yourself into it. And you could do it only once. And that was only in qualifying. In the race, no freaking way."

Hey, this isn't some goofy guy in a SVT Cobra. This is a F1 World Champion and winner of the Indy 500 :cool:

[ac427cobra]

Hey, this isn't some goofy guy in a SVT Cobra.

Hey Doc:

I resemble that remark!!! :D

[95cobraR]

Bruce,
I wasn't referring to you (me!).

You look good in red. I never understood why they put those jokers (Schumacher and Barrichello) in those red Ferrari's instead of you!

Also, if they had put us in the GT40's we could have beaten their new record in the '66 LeMans instead of those slow teams of McLaren/Amon (1st) and Miles/Ruby (2nd). The winners only averaged 125MPH over the full 24 Hour race! That was the Mark II.

In '67, why put Dan Gurney/A J Foyt in the Shelby American Mark IV's when they could have hired us?

Why don't you get a '05 GT and we'll show 'em how to do the Kink? (I'd suggest a red one to match your '00). :D

OK, I'll crew and you drive. :cool: I'll drive the hauler, too. You pick up the gas and tires.

[ac427cobra]

Hey, sounds good to me? ;)

[Black Horse]

"If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much room!"

[95cobraR]

"If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much room!"

Thanks for the great quote. Very nice #46 car.
Life's too short to drive a slow car.

[mattSPA]

Make sure you have a good fire system. AFFF Electric. Check out www.spatechnique.com (http://www.spatechnique.com)

[95cobraR]

The current professional race car driver flys to the next track in his private jet while the crew takes care of preparing his car, hauling it to the track, and being sure the car has the lastest and best in safety equipment.

The pioneers in this sport did it all. They preped the car, hauled (or drove) it to the track, and sorted it for the race. The had very little safety equipment. In fact, many wouldn't even wear a seat belt (they thought it was safer to be thrown from the car in an incident rather than die in the fire).

I just read this quote by Ed Lowther, a noted pro driver for Ferrari, Shelby Cobra, and sprint cars: "We raced on weekends and buried our dead the following week". :eek:

[95cobraR]

"No risk, no fun".--- Michael Schumacker (seven time World Champ)

"Life is too short to drive a slow car"-- Bruce

My best excuses for driving slow(er):
I didn't pass you because you were faster.
I was running too much downforce for this configuration.
I was on old tires.
It was cutting out.

P/S What is racecar spelled backwards?

[ac427cobra]

"No risk, no fun".--- Michael Schumacker (seven time World Champ)

"Life is too short to drive a slow car"-- Bruce

My best excuses for driving slow(er):
I didn't pass you because you were faster.
I was running too much downforce for this configuration.
I was on old tires.
It was cutting out.

P/S What is racecar spelled backwards?

Cute one doc!! :thumbsup: ;)

[RheacerDave]

"Make sure you have a good fire system. AFFF Electric."

I still have a 10 lb halon in my car and a spare in the trailer.
I know AFFF is great for putting out a fire, but I'm concerned about
1) getting out of a burning car with slick shoes
2) sitting too close to a flame with a damp suit on. (ever see a poached egg?)

Just hope I never use either one.

[95cobraR]

"Make sure you have a good fire system. AFFF Electric."

I still have a 10 lb halon in my car and a spare in the trailer.
I know AFFF is great for putting out a fire

I think I'll clarify some of this for new guys but would like help from others.

AFFF (or cold fire) is a foaming water based fire system. Some say it's expensive, messy, doesn't spread out, can suffer from thermal shock, but it is NOT toxic.

Halon 1211. It is used in hand held extinguishers. It's very effective but very toxic to the human lung. It is also ozone depleting. I think it comes out of the bottle as a liquid.

Halon 1301. It is not as toxic as 1211. It is small and lightweight. It is a gas.
I use this presently but am studying other options as my system is due for a refresh (it's getting old).

CEA-614. Halon substitute, no quench, requires twice as much as Halon.

Dupont has a new product. It's being tested (SFI) now. It's claims sound favorable.

I like NASCAR's system: they use two types on the car; one in the cockpit (non-toxic), one on the engine/fuel tank with automatic triggers (toxic but effective, doesn't enter cockpit).

Whatever you use, be sure it is secured to the car properly. If they fly away during the incident, they don't work very well.

I plan to re-engineer my fuel pumps. I use electric. It concerns me that in an incident the fuel pumps could continue to dump racing gas on the fire (if I'm knocked out). NASCAR does not allow electric pumps. They require the old-fashion mechanical pump (when the motor is killed the pumps stop working).

[tgentry]

Phil Hill has said that in the old days you would look around the drivers meeting at the first race and know that not everyone there would be alive for the last race.

The "good old days" weren't always good.

Remember when sex was safe and racing was dangerous?

[Stavesacre21]

Caution:

If you are upside down and on fire you may be going a little too fast!!
Words of wisdom my friend...i'll try my hardest to keep upright, and...well, not on fire :p

[RheacerDave]

I plan to re-engineer my fuel pumps. I use electric. It concerns me that in an incident the fuel pumps could continue to dump racing gas on the fire (if I'm knocked out). NASCAR does not allow electric pumps. They require the old-fashion mechanical pump (when the motor is killed the pumps stop working).
Another good point. How about the next-to-free inertia switch in the trunk of all late model Mustangs. I have one just above the electric pump in my trunk. I guess the rear panel would be a better choice. Not sure how hard it has to be jolted to work... not work.... you know, cut power.;)

[FCorkran]

They don't necessarily have to be jolted all that hard (can you tell this isn't going to be a precise specification?). My wife was returning from the grocery store in our '93 SHO. As she wipped around a bend on our road a 24 pack of Pepsi slid across the trunk and banged the side where the switch is mounted. I got a phone call that the car had "just died".

The point is that while I would use one for safety if I weren't running a mechanical pump, a rough offroad excursion or spin (or maybe "incidental contact") could trip the switch during a race. The older ones had a large metal ball in a magnetic 'V' to maintain the switch in the on state, when mounted on the side they would seem to be more sensitive to fore/aft and vertical forces than side/side. The newer ones are much smaller so may well be of a different design/sensitivity. I've heard of but never experienced the switch being tripped by someone bumping into a car in a parking lot, owner comes back to find the car mysteriously won't start.