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Firme
01-05-2004, 12:30 PM
in case you haven't seen em.. here are the Official pics of the 05




http://www.maximum-cars.com/temp/mustang/

also the Shelby Cobra Concept
http://www.maximum-cars.com/temp/shelby/

spittincobra01
01-05-2004, 01:09 PM
the front shots look kinda like the mustang II's. I'm back and forth on this design. I love it in some pics, hate it in others

98banana
01-05-2004, 02:28 PM
I've been looking VERY CLOSELY at the suspension in the new stang. They could have done better, but I like it, A LOT! The new 3-link rear, although some improvements could be made, is leaps and bounds above the quadrabind rear they have now.

The front is MUCH better with a true McStrut front and a better L-arm design that looks a lot like the BMW design. The front swaybar end-links bother me a little, but that just leaves something for the aftermarket to fix. :D

The floor looks much stiffer as well with a better boxed tranny tunnel and more lateral reinforcement in the floor. I REALLY want to see under the car to see what they've done for stiffness there.

It's exciting!:bounce:

thomasmoran1
01-06-2004, 02:32 AM
Tom, where did you see pics of the suspension? Could you post the link?

Thomas

98banana
01-06-2004, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by thomasmoran1
Tom, where did you see pics of the suspension? Could you post the link?

Thomas

There's a few on my message board and a link to a page with a few more:

http://www.bananamotorsports.com/bananabbs/showthread.php?threadid=156

Edit: Here's another one: http://mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/05_mustang/05mustang.htm

97CasperCobra
01-06-2004, 12:16 PM
anybody see the video of the Mustang?? the g/f saw it but I can't find where it was.

I think I like the new design, but seeing it in person will be the true decider.

spittincobra01
01-06-2004, 05:28 PM
I don't really like it. at least from the pics and video clips on bananna's site... I'll have to wait till I see it in person to make up my mind tho.

Matt

johnbasf
01-06-2004, 09:18 PM
'05 observation, rear suspension.

The outboard nature of the shock mount places the body of the shock in very close proximity to the inner wheel flange. This will limit putting a larger tire and wheel width to the outboard side. Why did they out a SUV tire on it? Looks like a 255-55-18?

98banana
01-07-2004, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by johnbasf
'05 observation, rear suspension.

The outboard nature of the shock mount places the body of the shock in very close proximity to the inner wheel flange. This will limit putting a larger tire and wheel width to the outboard side. Why did they out a SUV tire on it? Looks like a 255-55-18?

You're close... it's a 255-45-18. Stock is a 235-55-17

I didn't notice the shock mount being farther outboard. I'll have to look at that again.

b_tone
01-07-2004, 02:11 PM
You guys are rookies....

98banana
01-07-2004, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by b_tone
You guys are rookies....

Well, let's hear it...

johnbasf
01-07-2004, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by b_tone
You guys are rookies....

:rotf:

97whitevert
01-07-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by 98banana
Well, let's hear it... yeah tell us oh svt god...;)

98banana
01-07-2004, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by b_tone
You guys are rookies....

Okay now! I just talked to John on the phone. If there's tech to share, please share it, or else I won't let you pass me in the next AI race... :D

White Venom
01-07-2004, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by 97CasperCobra
anybody see the video of the Mustang?? the g/f saw it but I can't find where it was.

I think I like the new design, but seeing it in person will be the true decider.

here ya go http://www.warnerrobert.com/videos/mustang.htm :thumbsup:

johnbasf
01-07-2004, 07:44 PM
Thanks for the link, very cool.:thumbsup:

98banana
01-07-2004, 08:29 PM
So is it the bottom of the shock that is going to limit more wheel width on the inside? Because I can't see how the shock is going to limit it. It looks like there's plenty of room in this picture.

It also looks like, and it's hard to tell in any of the pictures I've seen, that the bottom of the shock may be inside the wheel rim. If that's the case, then a wider wheel should be okay. ???
http://www.2005mustang.us/05/35.jpg

spittincobra01
01-07-2004, 10:30 PM
I must say I'm a little disappointed. I mean I thought this new platform would be a better performance starting point, yet a stick axle???

98banana
01-07-2004, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by spittincobra01
I must say I'm a little disappointed. I mean I thought this new platform would be a better performance starting point, yet a stick axle???

That's a much better stick axle though then what's currently on the Mustang. Plus, there's still talk of an IRS for the Cobra.

Firme
01-07-2004, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by spittincobra01
I must say I'm a little disappointed. I mean I thought this new platform would be a better performance starting point, yet a stick axle???

Well the Cobra is said to be IRS still.

The GT I think has to be stick axle due to the fact that alot of the Mustang usebase is only concerned with 1320 performace thus wanting the live axle.

But Looking at the pumkin.. its looks like its the opposite of the SN95 in that they shoe horned a live axle into a IRS design.

spittincobra01
01-07-2004, 10:48 PM
well, your both probably right.... I was hoping Ford would offer IRS as an option in the GT and standard in the Cobra.... this way the bugs would be worked out by 06

b_tone
01-08-2004, 09:12 AM
So is it the bottom of the shock that is going to limit more wheel width on the inside? Because I can't see how the shock is going to limit it. It looks like there's plenty of room in this picture.

Huh, what do I know?

98banana
01-08-2004, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by b_tone
Huh, what do I know?

Well, nothing obviously. :D

edit: So, can you answer the question? Or is it a trade secret or something?

b_tone
01-08-2004, 07:54 PM
I was going to tell you something, but you have hurt my feelings.....

98banana
01-08-2004, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by b_tone
I was going to tell you something, but you have hurt my feelings.....
LOL! You did see the smiley didn't you?

I tell you what. Tell everybody else, I won't look.

b_tone
01-13-2004, 12:47 PM
Tom, Pearson called me last night and begged me to be nice to you and tell you why you can't put a wider tire on the car. After careful deliberation I have decided that I was not mean in any manner so I will not reveal any secrets. You will have to wait until you see the car up in the air and then it will become painfully obvious why my comments were made. Of course you can figure it out quicker if you carefully analyze the pictures that are currently out on the internet.......

It took Pearson a full year and a half to get me to answer one of his questions but I finally did last night. If you can't figure it out in about a year come back and ask me, i'll tell you anything you want to know.

Pearson, how is that little project going?

I want all the info you find out.

bt

98banana
01-13-2004, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by b_tone
Tom, Pearson called me last night and begged me to be nice to you and tell you why you can't put a wider tire on the car. After careful deliberation I have decided that I was not mean in any manner so I will not reveal any secrets. You will have to wait until you see the car up in the air and then it will become painfully obvious why my comments were made. Of course you can figure it out quicker if you carefully analyze the pictures that are currently out on the internet.......

It took Pearson a full year and a half to get me to answer one of his questions but I finally did last night. If you can't figure it out in about a year come back and ask me, i'll tell you anything you want to know.

Pearson, how is that little project going?

I want all the info you find out.

bt

LOL! You are too funny!

I would also say that you are too kind, but It would be a lie. :D

b_tone
01-13-2004, 12:57 PM
I am very kind...I help pearson out all the time.

97BlackSnake
01-13-2004, 06:09 PM
Here are a couple of pics I found. Hope it helps!

http://media.mustangworks.com/showphoto.php?photo=6934&size=big&password=&sort=2&cat=607

http://media.mustangworks.com/showphoto.php?photo=6942&size=big&password=&sort=2&cat=607