H is for "Ha Ha Ha Honda"

[djbobbyzee]

Who, what, where, when did anyone ever come up with the notion Honda is a fast car? Yes, this is probably the Trillionth post about a Honda beatdown. Just a funny tale from this evening I'd like to share.

SO here in Wilmington NC if a Honda has a fart pipe, intake, Wal-Mart spinner wheels & a kid lookin ghetto-fabulous with his hat turned sideways... does that mean he's a racer? Apparently. Also, if he leans reeeeeeeeeeeaaaally far over & back in his seat, does it make his car go faster? Apparently as well.

I'm driving home from work. 3.3 miles total. I pull out of the office complex & a set of import headlights comes tearing up on my right. Brain says "let him go, waste of time." Foot says "gotta go, mash the pedal." Brain wins battle 1.

Dopey the Home Dog slows down next to me & starts revving his obnoxious little 4 banger. Brain says "Ignore him. Waste of time." Foot screams, "C'mon dude, he's begging to be embarassed." Brain wins battle 2.

Seeing that I've given him the utter disrespect of looking over at him & laughing, and then ignoring him... the little ricer cuts in front of me & jams on his breaks at a light. Brain says, "Okay, time to re-consider." Fist says, "pull him out of car & beat him in middle of road." Foot says, "Law suit dude. Let me do my thing."

Light turns. He screams off to next light, cuts me off again. Same scenario. Brain says, "lets all work together & punish him." Rest of body & the Cobra agree...

Light turns, he pops his clutch. I ease it out & roll agressively in 1st... he pulls ahead hard... I nail second & wind it up to 5800, pass him with the bird swingin' out the window, punch third, & coast up to the next light.

He pulls pulls up, rolls down his window & says... do you have Nitrous in that?

I look over, say "No. Just horsepower & a bat. You've met my horspower, cut me off again, you & your car will meet my bat."

He drove off quite gingerly.

What a nice way to start a relaxing weekend.

Bob
97 Cobra
Pacific Green :bounce:

[cobracrazy]

SO SWEEEEET!!!!

I Hate the Honda's. I really hate that they think they are fast.
I am really glad you pounded him. (and did not get into trouble) :bounce:

[casey99COBRA]

lol good one.

[Cobra4me]

I think most of these guys just want to hear a real car's exhaust.

[InfamousSVT]

That's an awesome kill story!:thumbsup:

[Stavesacre21]

Beautifully depicted kill....flows like poetry....:thumbsup:

I agree though...when did the world Honda translate into fast? Once again, a big thanx to movies like Fast&the Furious for stirring the pool of morons :doh2:

[blk04cobra1]

Im not a fan of those yahoo's who slap on a fart can and intake and think they are fast...but Ive got a few Honda's that'll drag you down the track...I know b/c they've beaten me in my '04...just be careful, some of those fart cans will surprise you ;)

[cobracrazy]

There maybe a Honda out there that can beat an 03-04 Cobra but.... You will have to look for them. Those cars are not the majority. The guys that own those cars are true car enthusiasts and I respect their work and love of cars.

It is the "Auto-Zone" fart-can Honda I think we all despise!! :thumbsup:

[Rodo]

It is the "Auto-Zone" fart-can Honda I think we all despise!! :thumbsup:

Amen brother, I would'nt feel too bad if I got smoked by a honda, as long as he had like 20 or 30 grand in his engine!:D

[Stavesacre21]

It is the "Auto-Zone" fart-can Honda I think we all despise!! :thumbsup:
Very well put...come to think of, i have seen maybe 2 imports around here that seem to put their all into theirs, and indeed, they can scoot. It's just that majority seems to ruin the name for those who take their modding seriously :nope:

[RF Cobra]

I have a question. If we had to follow the ricer philosophy of adding huge spoilers to increase downforce on the non-drive wheels, how are we supposed to see once we bolt a Cobra R, or a biplane spoiler on the hood?

As far as the stickers go I know I lost some hp on my car because I removed the dealer's sticker off the trunk after I got it home. I just wish I had done a baseline dyno first so I would know how much hp I lost and how much extra I am going to have to do to make up for it. :scratch: :rolleyes:

Do you think adding one of those stickers that says "The person driving this car is a complete idiot" in Japanese would get back the hp I lost from removing the dealer sticker? :doubt:

[InfamousSVT]

As far as the stickers go I know I lost some hp on my car because I removed the dealer's sticker off the trunk after I got it home. I just wish I had done a baseline dyno first so I would know how much hp I lost and how much extra I am going to have to do to make up for it. :scratch: :rolleyes:

You can just do what I did and put the SCMC club side window decals on. That'll make up that lost horsepower for you, I think I got 10rwhp each for mine:rotf:

[RF Cobra]

You can just do what I did and put the SCMC club side window decals on. That'll make up that lost horsepower for you, I think I got 10rwhp each for mine:rotf:
That will work!:D Plus I just remembered I have to get a new club sticker. The one I got when we joined is still attached to the original windshield in a junkyard somewhere so I am giving up power there too!;)

[djbobbyzee]

I have a question. If we had to follow the ricer philosophy of adding...

I've spent years working at this, & in my secret laboooorrrr-a-tory (said like "Dexter") I believe I've discovered their formula:

Yellow = Fast. Adding yellow wire looms on every piece of the motor adds 20 hp.

Lean. The more you lean towards the transmission, the faster the car will go. You're centering your mass over the focal drive point. Add 5 hp for every pound you place on the center console.

Bass = speed. The more ass bubbling bass you have, & the muddier it sounds, the faster your car is. Sub frequency boosts the harmonic balance of your 4cyl motor. For ever false 400W add 3 hp. Sony ROCKS yo.

Every sticker = 5hp. Big gaudy stickers that clash with your paint scheme = 20 hp.

Debadge your vehicle. Make sure know one knows you have the SL model from mom. If you THINK it's fast, it must be.

For every teen-age girl you hang with add 10 hp. Their cell phones & hormonal imbalance will add octane to your fuel via osmosis.

Neon means speed. Start with your license plate. Then do under your seats. When you're a real rice racer, you've got the money to do an under car kit. For every neon add 2hp.

Now don't forget the CAI & Fart pipe. AEM rates up to 30hp gains!!! We all know to double that b/c it's not how you dyno, it's how you LOOK like you dyno!

Finally, brag alot. Wow the ladies with your tales of 140 hp! That is how to win against a Cobra. Beat them with your mind.. IN your mind.

Equation solved.

Bobby :bounce:

[Stavesacre21]

Do you think adding one of those stickers that says "The person driving this car is a complete idiot" in Japanese would get back the hp I lost from removing the dealer sticker? :doubt:
Don't hold yur breath :rolleyes:

:rotf:

[Stavesacre21]

I've spent years working at this, & in my secret laboooorrrr-a-tory (said like "Dexter") I believe I've discovered their formula:

Yellow = Fast. Adding yellow wire looms on every piece of the motor adds 20 hp.

Lean. The more you lean towards the transmission, the faster the car will go. You're centering your mass over the focal drive point. Add 5 hp for every pound you place on the center console.

Bass = speed. The more ass bubbling bass you have, & the muddier it sounds, the faster your car is. Sub frequency boosts the harmonic balance of your 4cyl motor. For ever false 400W add 3 hp. Sony ROCKS yo.

Every sticker = 5hp. Big gaudy stickers that clash with your paint scheme = 20 hp.

Debadge your vehicle. Make sure know one knows you have the SL model from mom. If you THINK it's fast, it must be.

For every teen-age girl you hang with add 10 hp. Their cell phones & hormonal imbalance will add octane to your fuel via osmosis.

Neon means speed. Start with your license plate. Then do under your seats. When you're a real rice racer, you've got the money to do an under car kit. For every neon add 2hp.

Now don't forget the CAI & Fart pipe. AEM rates up to 30hp gains!!! We all know to double that b/c it's not how you dyno, it's how you LOOK like you dyno!

Finally, brag alot. Wow the ladies with your tales of 140 hp! That is how to win against a Cobra. Beat them with your mind.. IN your mind.

Equation solved.

Bobby :bounce:wow :eek: :jawdrop:

You seem to know waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much about riceology :spank2: :hail: :spoke: :p

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

I really like this guy......glad to have you aboard :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[cobracrazy]

Just in case I thought I should define riceology

riceology: The science of turning a POS motorcycle engine toting car into a formula one racer by the use of various space age products like, coffee cans, spray paint, neon lights and gigantic wings.

I think if you can recieve a degree in this using some internet college programs.
:rotf:

[Stavesacre21]

Just in case I thought I should define riceology

riceology: The science of turning a POS motorcycle engine toting car into a formula one racer by the use of various space age products like, coffee cans, spray paint, neon lights and gigantic wings.

I think if you can recieve a degree in this using some internet college programs.
:rotf:Alas, this must be the same college that offers other such exciting and wonderful degrees as:

Kitography, Bassology, Inaccuraphy, Boastology, Transformography, Shinemology, Neanthrapy and of couse....the elite BS degree in......Nossosophy

Everyone knows that no one can surpass the greatness of the almighty Nossosophers

:clapping: :rotf:

[1-QIK-SNK]

You can just do what I did and put the SCMC club side window decals on. That'll make up that lost horsepower for you, I think I got 10rwhp each for mine:rotf:

Holy cow !! I have 30 extra HP with the SCMC club decal and the side windows. :woot: :thumbsup:

[RF Cobra]

Holy cow !! I have 30 extra HP with the SCMC club decal and the side windows. :woot: :thumbsup:

And they said increasing hp was expensive and time consuming! :rotf:

[RF Cobra]

Just in case I thought I should define riceology

riceology: The science of turning a POS motorcycle engine toting car into a formula one racer by the use of various space age products like, coffee cans, spray paint, neon lights and gigantic wings.

I think if you can recieve a degree in this using some internet college programs.
:rotf:

Are you sure you didn't mean moped instead of motorcycle?

[scocher]

:eek: WOW! There's really alot of ei (education/information) in this thread! I just want to say that I laughed my :moon: off while reading. Bob, if you're not a professional writer, you should be! Your math's not too bad either. You do know that in order for any new math theories to be accepted, they must be published in a mathematical journal with a formal proof. However, I suppose publishing on the SCMC BB without a proof is good enough for us! :thumbsup: All I have to say to those ricer idiots is COBRAS RULE!

P.S. I'm a math teacher :D I thoroughly enjoyed your discussion.

[scocher]

Just in case I thought I should define riceology

riceology: The science of turning a POS motorcycle engine toting car into a formula one racer by the use of various space age products like, coffee cans, spray paint, neon lights and gigantic wings.

I think if you can recieve a degree in this using some internet college programs.
:rotf:

Would that be according to the Merriam-Webster or the Wacked-Out-of-Brain version of the dictionary?? ;)

[RF Cobra]

For additional information see: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ricer :)

[scocher]

For additional information see: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ricer :)

:headbang: :woot: :rotf: :rotf:

I don't know why it even surprised me that such a "dictionary" exists! :nope:

[casey99COBRA]

wanted to share something with you guys lol !!!!
http://www.ragesystems.net/thehondasong.mp3

I got 30 hp just by painting my interior lol
5 turbos, count em biatch!
that's VTEC, V T E K biatch! ROFL:rotf:

AUSIE, i think you need to add this to your DVD hahaha!

[Stavesacre21]

wanted to share something with you guys lol !!!!
http://www.ragesystems.net/thehondasong.mp3

I got 30 hp just by painting my interior lol
5 turbos, count em biatch!
that's VTEC, V T E K biatch! ROFL:rotf:

AUSIE, i think you need to add this to your DVD hahaha!
That was rather entertaining....mostly because it sounds about accurate to the general ricer analogy for racing :rotf:

[Stavesacre21]

For additional information see: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ricer :)Where do people come up with this stuff?! What a riot! :rotf::lol: :clapping: :drunk:

[ausie]

The true import enthusiast knows it is in the rubber band that counts.

Make sure that the tires are angled such that they barely make contact with the wheel well, and that they angle in so far as to reduce the contact patch on the pavement. more contact area increases static friction and friction will slow you down right? Don't forget about those wide body kits too. They really reduce air drag and lightetn up the car. As for duct tape, the more the better since it is a cost alternative to bondo. A good ricer knows how to install the tape in just the right place. That is the key to letting others know they have a true winner and not to be messed with. Don't forget about all the trash in the car. That makes for a sure bet that million dollar car will not be stolen. To prevent theft of that prized automobile, make sure you install the noisiest car alarm that K-Mart offers. The more beeps and tones the better, and it sounds cool too. Also, the nitrous bottle must have a warning label on it, "intended for combustion engines only". I think most of the ricers on nitrous have it leaking inside the car, it is probably the only way they can be happy driving it. Brain damage sounds about right, that is why they do not back off when they loose. :drool:

[cobracrazy]

Man did this thread turn into a rice bashing contest or what?
:rotf:

[Stavesacre21]

Man did this thread turn into a rice bashing contest or what?
:rotf:
The sad part is, almost all of it's true.....ironically, i don't see anyone specifically disagreeing though :nono: :D

[nckissfan]

Holy cow !! I have 30 extra HP with the SCMC club decal and the side windows. :woot: :thumbsup:

so, that said, I have a SCMC license plate on the front, two side window decals, SCMC windshield banner, the little round SCMC sticker, and a chrome SCMC license plate frame. How much hp boost am I good for?

[scocher]

Man did this thread turn into a rice bashing contest or what?
:rotf:

Really! But it's sooooo funny! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: and so TRUE! :thumbsup: It's too bad that we have to waste our time blowing their doors off just to put them in their place. But, hey, we do what we have to do :burnout:

I almost forgot about the jerk in a ricer last summer that about rear-ended me! :mad: :mad: I had just passed him on the right as we pulled up to a light. I wasn't paying him much attention, but he was playing like he wanted to race. He was a redneck kid so I decided what the heck, he may as well learn now just how stupid he is acting - thinking he could race a COBRA! :nope: Being the avid drag race enthusiast that I am :D he was in my dust from the start. By the time I hit third, I decided the point was made and I resumed responsible driving. I hadn't even noticed that he was behind me until the next light. I stopped, heard screeching tires and looked in my rearview mirror just in time to see him sliding off the shoulder of the road with smoke everywhere laughing his butt off. His driver side was BESIDE my rear passenger side! I was PISSED! Whoever gave this idiot a license, anyway? Had there not been a shoulder to this road (as is often the case in Alabama) he would have hit me :mad: It was all I could do to just drive away and let it go. Of course, the hick probably outweighed me 2 to 1, not to mention that I'm female. Those are the times you wish you had some electronic zapping device so you could get 'em! :shockwave :shockwave :shockwave :shockwave Maybe we could come with something just for the club ;)

Disclaimer: No offense is meant to any redneck who doesn't drive a ricer. No offense if meant to any hick who does not drive a ricer. No offense is meant to anyone who outweighs me 2 to 1 who does not drive a ricer. :D

[RF Cobra]

so, that said, I have a SCMC license plate on the front, two side window decals, SCMC windshield banner, the little round SCMC sticker, and a chrome SCMC license plate frame. How much hp boost am I good for?
1. License plate = 20
2. side window decals = 20
3. banner = 40+?
4. round sticker = 15 (since it is round and more aerodynamic)
5. Chrome SCMC plate frame = 25 since chrome

So...around 120 give or take :D :eek: :rolleyes:

[1-QIK-SNK]

so, that said, I have a SCMC license plate on the front, two side window decals, SCMC windshield banner, the little round SCMC sticker, and a chrome SCMC license plate frame. How much hp boost am I good for?

you talking some BIG i mean B I G #'s :eek: :jawdrop:

[RF Cobra]

...Those are the times you wish you had some electronic zapping device so you could get 'em! :shockwave :shockwave :shockwave :shockwave Maybe we could come with something just for the club ;)

Disclaimer: No offense is meant to any redneck who doesn't drive a ricer. No offense if meant to any hick who does not drive a ricer. No offense is meant to anyone who outweighs me 2 to 1 who does not drive a ricer. :D


It could be made to look like a cobra. Press a button and the mouth opens and the fangs could deliver the zap. Surely we have some electrical engineers in the club that could see this through to production. :)

[scocher]

It could be made to look like a cobra. Press a button and the mouth opens and the fangs could deliver the zap. Surely we have some electrical engineers in the club that could see this through to production. :)

Scott, my husband, or his dad could do it! I'm not sure if it would be legal, though hehehe :p

[RF Cobra]

Legal? :lurk:

It's just an ornament for decoration used at car shows...yeah that's it. Look closely and see how the eyes light up and glow red when you plug it in...

[scocher]

Legal? :lurk:

It's just an ornament for decoration used at car shows...yeah that's it. Look closely and see how the eyes light up and glow red when you plug it in...

hehehe :naughty: :bs:

[djbobbyzee]

Those are the times you wish you had some electronic zapping device so you could get 'em! :shockwave :shockwave :shockwave :shockwave Maybe we could come with something just for the club ;)

Let me begin with scocher... a tazer would be perfect. Do some billet work to dress it up like a Cobra "toy"... I used to work at a nightclub as head of security. This one steriod freak lost it bigtime & pulled a knife. He was HUGE with a weapon & going after his ex girlfriend. He put 4 of my biggest guys in the hospital that night. We had a tazer locked up in the event of such an emergency. I pulled it out, calmly approached him and layed a few good jolts into him. He was on the floor in handcuffs in no time. Sure, I was arrested for assault, but acquitted by the d/a for self defense.

As for my degree in rice-ology, I lived in northern NJ for a while. One of my buddies who never had the money for a Mustang bought a 98 Talon TSi. Quick car till he blew the motor. He went rice crazy. Boosted it up to 38 lbs. He was also the same ass who ran a can of computer keyboard cleaner (can of air) to 2 tubes coming from his hood. He discoverred that it made his 87 VW jetta LOOK like it had a Nitrous purge if he turned the can upside down & attached it. I've spent years scratching my head wondering... WHY TRY?

Now, the scientific formula? I'm kinda like Good Will Hunting. Undiscovered genious. See, the ricers haven't discovered me yet. Nor will they. I'll hide in my Cobra.

I've gotta find a track near Wilmington, NC. Too many trash talkers that need beat downs here & I hate to race on the street.

[scocher]

Let me begin with scocher... a tazer would be perfect. Do some billet work to dress it up like a Cobra "toy"...

COOL! :cool: :blast:

[scocher]

Now, the scientific formula? I'm kinda like Good Will Hunting. Undiscovered genious. See, the ricers haven't discovered me yet. Nor will they. I'll hide in my Cobra.


:lurk: :teleport: :thumbsup:

[Stavesacre21]

See, the ricers haven't discovered me yet. Nor will they. I'll hide in my Cobra
mwahahaha.....hiding cobra....that's an oxymoron if ever i've heard one! :naughty:

as for the tazer deal you had, that is pretty whack! I can't believe you got the chance to----I mean, were forced to zap someone :rotf: Those thingsll drop people in a matter of seconds!

[Stavesacre21]

He was also the same ass who ran a can of computer keyboard cleaner (can of air) to 2 tubes coming from his hood. He discoverred that it made his 87 VW jetta LOOK like it had a Nitrous purge if he turned the can upside down & attached it.
Oh yea, and WTF's the deal with this?!? I can't even fathom what this would accomplish, much less, what it would look like :doubt: :scratch:

Reguardless, it does sound like something that would appear in an issue of ricers monthy :p

[RF Cobra]

The next time you have a run in with a ricer act interested in the car and ask them if they have installed helium bottles yet. Tell him you heard that is all the rage now in ricerdom. Explain that since the helium is lighter than the air it displaces that reduces the cars weight making it accelerate quicker and act surprised that he has not done this mod yet. ;) :rotf:


Next time you see him he may just have a car full of helium filled balloons! :D

[Stavesacre21]

Explain that since the helium is lighter than the air it displaces that reduces the cars weight making it accelerate quicker and act surprised that he has not done this mod yet. ;)
Yea, and don't worry about remembering the part where helium isn't all the combustable.....just little overlooked details, you know :rolleyes: :rotf:

[CobraSusie]

http://www.itsover.net/Hondaengine.jpg

http://tinypic.com/295.zqe

[RF Cobra]

Yea, and don't worry about remembering the part where helium isn't all the combustable.....just little overlooked details, you know :rolleyes: :rotf:
You think they spend much time on the details? If so they wouldn't be talking about how their stock 198x civic can beat a 400 hp cobra.:rolleyes:

Actually if the weight theory doesn't work you could pitch it from another angle...what happens when you open the balloon and let it go? It takes off and flies all over the place. So Mr ricer, you need to have a friend ride with you and hold the balloon out the window. Make sure the open end is towards the back of the car. Then when you need the extra boost of power have him release some of the helium from the balloon. Instant boost and provides so much more power than any bottle of nitrous ever could. ;)

[RF Cobra]

Yea, and don't worry about remembering the part where helium isn't all the combustable.....just little overlooked details, you know :rolleyes: :rotf:
Not to mention if you just use a cylinder of helium how much weight that would add to the car! :eek:

[Stavesacre21]

So Mr ricer, you need to have a friend ride with you and hold the balloon out the window. Make sure the open end is towards the back of the car. Then when you need the extra boost of power have him release some of the helium from the balloon. Instant boost and provides so much more power than any bottle of nitrous ever could. ;)
Make sure to conjure up some kinda brace to support the extreme amount of projectile force that will be applied to that balloon once it's opened. Otherwise...duh...it'll fly outta yur hands and smash into the car infront of you :eek: :doubt: ;)

[Stavesacre21]

Not to mention if you just use a cylinder of helium how much weight that would add to the car! :eek:
BUT WAIT says the average ricer! Helium lifts balloons UP, so therefor, not only would I be getting boost, but i'd also lighten my car by adding a tank of helium! Its like a double plus! Heck, if you'd use enough helium, you'd undoubtably be able to fly :tomcat: Screw jet fuel...you've got helium, buddy :naughty:

[RF Cobra]

Now you are catching on to the many benefits of helium! :rotf:


And unlike those lame empty weight adding nitrous bottles just sitting in the trunk slowing you down, you can attach the helium cylinders to the outside of the car and use releaseable clamps similar to those used on external fuel tanks for fighters. Once the helium is used up, press the button, and no more cylinder adding dead weight as it drops off the clamps and rolls away. Plus think how cool it will be to have those huge cylinders in plain view for everyone to see!

[scocher]

Now you are catching on to the many benefits of helium! :rotf:


And unlike those lame empty weight adding nitrous bottles just sitting in the trunk slowing you down, you can attach the helium cylinders to the outside of the car and use releaseable clamps similar to those used on external fuel tanks for fighters. Once the helium is used up, press the button, and no more cylinder adding dead weight as it drops off the clamps and rolls away. Plus think how cool it will be to have those huge cylinders in plain view for everyone to see!

I think you guys pushed the envelope about three or four posts ago! :crazy: But you know what they say, "Whatever floats your boat" Disclaimer: This is meant in no way to be a reference to BD ;)

[Stavesacre21]

lol....yea, i'd say it's about time to close shop on this masterpeice :eek: :p maestro has left the building ;)

[RF Cobra]

I think you guys pushed the envelope about three or four posts ago! :crazy: But you know what they say, "Whatever floats your boat" Disclaimer: This is meant in no way to be a reference to BD ;)
Yeah, we would hate to drag it out and beat it to death like the "good morning brian" thread in the members only section wouldn't we? :p ;)

Slow day(s) with the threads in the other forums... :bubye:

[djbobbyzee]

Since I started the thread, I suppose I'll close on this note. A bit of curiosity has been stirred about my dear friend Matt & his NOS Purged jetta. Since he currently has nothing worth racing but he has earned his nickname "Jack@$$" I will close this post with a preview to my next tale of wonder...

"Matt's Rides... all lose the race."

You'll love this.

[ausie]

What would be better than helium? imagine if they had a helium leak and got pulled over, hearing a chip munck voice eminiating from the drivers seat "was I doing something wrong officer? I would suggest that they use the green bottle "oxygen" and perhaps it will cause a meltdown of the pistons faster than the NOS will. If it blows up, even better. You may mention acetylene works even better!

so much for that, we will just have to deal with them anyway, which includes the beetle crowd VW street nazi. I think the Germans called some of their planes in WWII the proper english term "Junkers". When ever I see a mitsubishi driver, "you will loose because you are driving a Zero" (looser). History points out that when the Japanese started loosing ground in the Pascific they turned to different tactics "Kamakazi". Some how that had evolved into the ricers driving skills. If you loose, go KAMAKAZI on the winner. Just remember one thing, I would probably have road rage too if all I could afford was a cheap import from a junk yard. You may be surprized how much they paid for that thing they call a sports car. "Did you get a fortune cookie with that?, If so I bet you did not read it"

This thread is beginning to sound more like road warrior. Already I have seen all types of propaganda, as well as deploying weapons of sorts. Why not just cary a can of "bug off". Putting a zapper on your car will only attract more pests.

[Superschwan427]

you know that kid went back and told everybody he beat you 2 out of 3 races. that sort of thing will happen when you listen to your brain.

[scocher]

Hey Guys, didn't Bobby "end" :flush: this thread? (See post #56) ;)

SuperSchwan427 - :love: that "Go Baby Go" button. :burnout: That is my favorite movie of all time!! I think it's the first DVD I ever bought.