Talladega Gran Prix -- October 29, 2005 - Page 3

**cobrabitn** · 06-03-2005, 10:59 PM

Read this and maybe you'll feel the same way I do....we will need some sort of corner workers or flags for this event!

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/4562562/detail.html#

Tony

Jason · 06-08-2005, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobrabitn

Read this and maybe you'll feel the same way I do

I'm definitely planning to have a rollbar and belts by then.

**cobrabitn** · 06-08-2005, 09:04 PM

I am soooooooo in the mood to get back on the track! Can't wait for September and October.

BTTBSS · 06-09-2005, 08:59 AM

Tony:

I agree that we need corner workers and communication to run a safe, fun event. We might be able to get flags, etc from the Alabama SCCA. If not I can provide radios, if needed. If we have 30 cars, we could run three groups
and always have about 10 corner workers. If someone spins you need to be able to red flag the field.

BTTBSS

Allen

**cobrabitn** · 06-09-2005, 09:42 PM

Allen,

Most clubs run here without corner workers since it is a flat surface and you can see clear across the track. However, we are not most clubs and we'll probably get 4 or 5 workers at the event. We'll limit the event to 48 - 50 cars with 4 run groups of 12. This will enable us to generate some extra $$ for our own flags and radios and we can use them for the next time or maybe just purchase them once we have the event confirmed 100% in September.

It will be a lot of fun no matter how you look at it. I'm trying to ease my way in to getting that Friday off at work so I can get down there early. It's a 5 hour drive for me. Problem is, I have had so many Fridays off that I wouldn't be surprised if they vetoed this day off for me. If that happens, I'll have to take a different course of action.

Can't wait to get back together on the track again!

Why Try? · 06-23-2005, 12:59 PM

Tony,

I plan on attending the event, what will all be needed, just a helmet??? no other safety items are required are they (i.e. roll-bar, tapped off headlights, etc) thanks, ill be making the trip from my new home in Orlando by then too

**cobrabitn** · 06-23-2005, 09:52 PM

Just a good helmet and an open mind. I'm assuming this will be your first open track event? You don't need a roll bar since you have a coupe. Once we get the date confirmed, then we'll have an event packet for you to use as a guide line.

LeadSSled · 06-23-2005, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobrabitn

Just a good helmet and an open mind. I'm assuming this will be your first open track event? You don't need a roll bar since you have a coupe. Once we get the date confirmed, then we'll have an event packet for you to use as a guide line.

Not to put any pressure on you, but if your tentative date moves up a week, I may be able to make it. You'll finally get a chance to beat the SSLED.

If it is the last week of October or the 1st week on November, I'm out. I have previous racing plans.

**cobrabitn** · 06-23-2005, 10:01 PM

Terry,

The Porsche club will be there the week before. They start repaving the track the first week in November. That was the only weekend I could get that would fit into our schedule. We have a drag day the week after and a Charleston Ghost Tour the week before. Wish I could change it for you buddy.

LeadSSled · 06-23-2005, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobrabitn

The Porsche club will be there the week before.

That's OK; I like spanking Porsches too. The open headered SSLED seems to offend the Grey Poupon crowd a little. They must have sensitive ears.

That's OK. I understand. Never hurts to ask, though. Being out of town 3 weeks in a row for racing might be tough to pull off with the Misses anyway. I will try to make CMP next Spring, though.

Yeller' · 07-21-2005, 01:03 PM

I'm really looking forward to this... it's gonna kick ass.

**cobrabitn** · 07-21-2005, 10:05 PM

Brett,

Now everyone has seen your photo...

CMCLEOD · 07-22-2005, 06:01 PM

Tony,
Long time no see/speak/race...

I've run this track twice in the last year and a half and had plenty of fun. If I may offer some unsolicited advice and observations...

The track is flat, and you can see the whole track from the pits / flag stand. While on track, you will not be able to keep an eye on the whole track. You will loose sight of portions of the track due to slight elevation changes...and of course tunnel vision.

Both times I've run at TGP, we had no more than 20 cars. We limited the track to 4 or 5 cars at a time, and everyone ran plenty of laps...brakes (or should I say the overheating of brakes) limited track time more than the number of drivers. It might be possible to run more cars safely, but I think you will have some cars waiting in line to pass others with 10 cars on the track...The straights are not long enough to get more than 3 cars past safely (IMHO) during a track event.

Track in from the pits: You will definately want a worker here to control entry to track. With the track running clockwise, you are entering the track from the left, and you are put directly into the line for the entry of the skid pad corner...not a place to step out in front of another car that's going 85mph.

Corner workers: I would not use corner workers at TGP. There is just not enough room for workers to hang out in a safe place. Besides, access to the whole track is very straight forward from the pits, and should there be a BIG off track event, a corner worker isn't going to be there any faster. If you are trying to provide some warning to drivers to slow down etc, I would consider radio, and the flag stand. Again, just my personal opinion.

If I can, I'd love to join you guys there. I'll run if I can, but just to see some old SCMC friends will be nice also...I may just have to spank you with my LX5.0!

Later,

Channing

**cobrabitn** · 07-22-2005, 10:33 PM

Channing,

It is soooooooo good to hear from you. I talked to Joey one day and he said you had a 5 liter Mustang.

Who knows??? Maybe we'll get you back in a Snake soon...

Thanks for all the advice Channing; I just called David at TGP and he confirmed we could have the track on October 29th because they put off the construction for 6 months. I told him we may want it for two days so I'll need to know from everyone here if they would definitely go to a two day event?

It looks like 7 cars is a better number so we'll probably have to limit the run groups to 35 cars or 5 groups of 7. I'm not looking at this event as a "driving school" since most of us have run on the track. Also, it will cost more for 2 days obviously. I saw where the GA Mustang club was charging $150.00 per day for non MCA members and $125.00 per day for MCA members. I'm going to do some checking with the insurance cost but with 35 people, we may have to do a tad higher then $100.00 a day but not more then $125.00 a day.
What did you pay to go Channing?

If finances are good then we can do a Saturday night pizza party for all the participants.

David said we would need the following:

1. Pit out person
2. Pit in person
3. Gate person all day
4. 3 observers on the track
5. Tech person (Rick McNutt and Jayne)
6. Registration person (Tony Sorrentino)

Of course you are most welcome to come and join in and I'll be bringing the 94 so you can feel competitive out there.

Maybe you can call around and get us a good hotel that is relatively new and inexpensive? Can't wait to see ya again!

Final words to everyone on this thread that is 100% attending...One day or two? Please post your reply here, thanks!

Jason · 07-23-2005, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeadSSled

Being out of town 3 weeks in a row for racing might be tough to pull off with the Misses anyway.

Yeah, she'd insist on 4 weeks.

06-03-2005, 10:59 PM	#31
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,650	Read this and maybe you'll feel the same way I do....we will need some sort of corner workers or flags for this event! http://www.nbc4.tv/news/4562562/detail.html# Tony __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

06-08-2005, 09:04 PM	#33
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,650	I am soooooooo in the mood to get back on the track! Can't wait for September and October. __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

06-09-2005, 08:59 AM	#34
BTTBSS Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Music City Posts: 63	Corner Workers Tony: I agree that we need corner workers and communication to run a safe, fun event. We might be able to get flags, etc from the Alabama SCCA. If not I can provide radios, if needed. If we have 30 cars, we could run three groups and always have about 10 corner workers. If someone spins you need to be able to red flag the field. BTTBSS Allen __________________

06-09-2005, 09:42 PM	#35
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,650	Allen, Most clubs run here without corner workers since it is a flat surface and you can see clear across the track. However, we are not most clubs and we'll probably get 4 or 5 workers at the event. We'll limit the event to 48 - 50 cars with 4 run groups of 12. This will enable us to generate some extra $$ for our own flags and radios and we can use them for the next time or maybe just purchase them once we have the event confirmed 100% in September. It will be a lot of fun no matter how you look at it. I'm trying to ease my way in to getting that Friday off at work so I can get down there early. It's a 5 hour drive for me. Problem is, I have had so many Fridays off that I wouldn't be surprised if they vetoed this day off for me. If that happens, I'll have to take a different course of action. Can't wait to get back together on the track again! __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

06-23-2005, 12:59 PM	#36
Why Try? Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: TDY to Cyprus Posts: 144	Tony, I plan on attending the event, what will all be needed, just a helmet??? no other safety items are required are they (i.e. roll-bar, tapped off headlights, etc) thanks, ill be making the trip from my new home in Orlando by then too __________________ SCMC #01203 96 Laser Red Cobra Coupe, MODS: , 4:10 gears, Vortech S-Trim, MPH Power Pipe, Focus Fuel Pump, 42# injectors, 90mm MAF, NGK Plugs, Steeda Quadrant/Cable, TrickFlow Gridle/Cover, MSD Wires, PRO 5.0 Shifter, H&R Sport Springs, Cobra R Wheels, Off road X-pipe, Flowmasters, Brembo Rotors, Porterfield R4S pads, Autometer Gauges.

06-23-2005, 09:52 PM	#37
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,650	Just a good helmet and an open mind. I'm assuming this will be your first open track event? You don't need a roll bar since you have a coupe. Once we get the date confirmed, then we'll have an event packet for you to use as a guide line. __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

06-23-2005, 10:01 PM	#39
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,650	Terry, The Porsche club will be there the week before. They start repaving the track the first week in November. That was the only weekend I could get that would fit into our schedule. We have a drag day the week after and a Charleston Ghost Tour the week before. Wish I could change it for you buddy. __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

07-21-2005, 01:03 PM	#41
Yeller' Resident naysayer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Knoxville Posts: 201	I'm really looking forward to this... it's gonna kick ass. Attached Images __________________ Yeller' 2002 Z06

07-21-2005, 10:05 PM	#42
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,650	Brett, Now everyone has seen your photo... __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

07-22-2005, 06:01 PM	#43
CMCLEOD Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Smyrna, Georgia Posts: 45	Tony, Long time no see/speak/race... I've run this track twice in the last year and a half and had plenty of fun. If I may offer some unsolicited advice and observations... The track is flat, and you can see the whole track from the pits / flag stand. While on track, you will not be able to keep an eye on the whole track. You will loose sight of portions of the track due to slight elevation changes...and of course tunnel vision. Both times I've run at TGP, we had no more than 20 cars. We limited the track to 4 or 5 cars at a time, and everyone ran plenty of laps...brakes (or should I say the overheating of brakes) limited track time more than the number of drivers. It might be possible to run more cars safely, but I think you will have some cars waiting in line to pass others with 10 cars on the track...The straights are not long enough to get more than 3 cars past safely (IMHO) during a track event. Track in from the pits: You will definately want a worker here to control entry to track. With the track running clockwise, you are entering the track from the left, and you are put directly into the line for the entry of the skid pad corner...not a place to step out in front of another car that's going 85mph. Corner workers: I would not use corner workers at TGP. There is just not enough room for workers to hang out in a safe place. Besides, access to the whole track is very straight forward from the pits, and should there be a BIG off track event, a corner worker isn't going to be there any faster. If you are trying to provide some warning to drivers to slow down etc, I would consider radio, and the flag stand. Again, just my personal opinion. If I can, I'd love to join you guys there. I'll run if I can, but just to see some old SCMC friends will be nice also...I may just have to spank you with my LX5.0! Later, Channing __________________ SCMC SE Rep Ret. 1991 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 Coupe 2006 Audi A3

07-22-2005, 10:33 PM	#44
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,650	Channing, It is soooooooo good to hear from you. I talked to Joey one day and he said you had a 5 liter Mustang. Who knows??? Maybe we'll get you back in a Snake soon... Thanks for all the advice Channing; I just called David at TGP and he confirmed we could have the track on October 29th because they put off the construction for 6 months. I told him we may want it for two days so I'll need to know from everyone here if they would definitely go to a two day event? It looks like 7 cars is a better number so we'll probably have to limit the run groups to 35 cars or 5 groups of 7. I'm not looking at this event as a "driving school" since most of us have run on the track. Also, it will cost more for 2 days obviously. I saw where the GA Mustang club was charging $150.00 per day for non MCA members and $125.00 per day for MCA members. I'm going to do some checking with the insurance cost but with 35 people, we may have to do a tad higher then $100.00 a day but not more then $125.00 a day. What did you pay to go Channing? If finances are good then we can do a Saturday night pizza party for all the participants. David said we would need the following: 1. Pit out person 2. Pit in person 3. Gate person all day 4. 3 observers on the track 5. Tech person (Rick McNutt and Jayne) 6. Registration person (Tony Sorrentino) Of course you are most welcome to come and join in and I'll be bringing the 94 so you can feel competitive out there. Maybe you can call around and get us a good hotel that is relatively new and inexpensive? Can't wait to see ya again! Final words to everyone on this thread that is 100% attending...One day or two? Please post your reply here, thanks! __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

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