Buckeye Road Trip - Page 5

Stavesacre21 · 03-12-2008, 11:54 PM

tony when you say race rubber, are you talking about the speed rating? Or just a dedicated race tire? These tires are Z rated summer performance tires, and i'm not sure if that puts it in race rubber catagory. They're not all-season tires, if that's what you mean. I was under the impression that street tires would be ok for race rubber...am i wrong?

Wait a sec...so when it comes to racing, you want the most tread in the FRONT? Isn't it usually wanted in the back? Pardon my racing newbism

**cobrabitn** · 03-13-2008, 12:10 AM

You do not have to have race tires for this event. I guess I thought you meant that. Probably the best thing for you to do is use your street tires since it is your first event. However, if you want to see what race tires will do for you, maybe sometime during the weekend you can swap them out.

If I had to chose between the rear of my car sliding or the front of it, I opt for the rear. I use the better tires on the front since you have to turn left and right.

Stavesacre21 · 03-13-2008, 01:33 AM

That'd be awefully nice of you tony. What's the longevity for racing tires usually? Couple track days? Just curious.

I'd be curious to see what kinda difference race rubber would make over street performance rubber.

Also, is there anything specific to look for when looking for helmets? Obviously SA-2005 is a biggie, but closed face/open face? brand? Here's one that stuck out when i first started looking. For a starters helmet, I really liked this one, but wasn't sure if it's SA-2005 certified. It says its a Snell 2005 certified, but reads M2005. A motorcycle helmet maybe?

**cobrabitn** · 03-13-2008, 07:40 AM

It must be a SA 2005 helmet and not a M2005 helmet. There is a tremendous difference between race rubber and street tires. Like I said, use the street ones for part of the weekend and then switch to race tires. You'll never look back trust me.

I have one like the first one but you can get an open face as long as it is "SA 2005". There are plenty of open face helmets from Simpson, Biffee, etc....

Stavesacre21 · 03-13-2008, 08:30 AM

alrighty thanx for all the help tony!

**cobrabitn** · 03-13-2008, 09:39 PM

I usually go one season with race tires, that would be 4-5 events a year.

Stavesacre21 · 03-14-2008, 03:27 AM

would race rubber be the same tire that's undrivable in the rain?

I've checked out tirerack.com, and they only have 2 tires under the track/competition DOT that would fit my extra rims. That would be this one and this one.

Am I on the right track here or are these the wrong kinds of tires?

**cobrabitn** · 03-14-2008, 09:58 PM

V710 is what I recommend but I would wait and see if they throw a sale on some of the other competitive tires. I would wait till the last minute to get them just in case they have a closeout on that tire or another brand.

XCOBRAX · 03-15-2008, 05:16 PM

Getting back to the original post...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SvilleCobra

Time to start considering and planning a Buckeye Road Trip to an SCMC event south of the Mason-Dixon Line as a group/caravan. It would be great to travel to an event and represent the Buckeye SCMC together.

3 events are potential choices...

4/5-4/6 Food Lion AutoFair - Charlotte, NC (Car Show)

5/30-6/1 SVT Cobra / Shelby GT 500 Nationals - Danville, VA

9/19-9/21 SCMC Gingerman ( I know this is "north" but we should go!)

Event details can be found on the SCMC club website.

Other NON-SCMC events to consider:

June 20-22 MCA Buckeye Nationals Mustang Show - Columbus Ohio
( info @ www.mustangclubofohio.com )

June 6-7 PINKS - All Out @ Summit Motorsports Park - strictly on a spectator basis but could be fun.

What do you all think? Can you make one, both?

Stang66 · 03-19-2008, 09:45 AM

Just a little question for the Buckeye Stang group. Do you look at shows in the area before you plan a date or are you at the mercy of Summit Racing?

The reason I ask is that a couple years ago the show was in the middle of July and didn't seem to conflict with other large Mustang shows. Last year it was the first weekend of August and it was the same weekend as the Lake Erie Mustang Owners Club Show in Erie, PA. We (LEMOC) have had it on the first weekend in August for almost 20 years except when we hosted our National Show in 2006. Most people can only go to one show in a weekend and have to make a choice.

This year, the Summit Show is the same weekend as The No-Borders National Show in Welland that is in easy diving distance. This makes car owners have to choose which one to attend.

I have attended the Summit Show for the past 4 years and enjoy it but this year I plan on going to the National Show in Canada.

I realize that things happen but in the future, it would be better to check the area calender before you schedule a show. We moved the LEMOC Show to Aug. 10 because of the National Show and do look forward to as many members of the SVT Cobra Club to attend if possible.

psycho43142 · 03-19-2008, 07:32 PM

If you really abuse them the V710 might last 2 weekends, they are more of an AX tire than a road race tire, the V700 is more of a road race tire and will last much longer but the trade off is they have less grip. Hoosier A6 have the most grip but you would be lucky to get a weekend on a road course out of them. If I were you I'd just run street tires for at least a few track days as you have to learn to drive the car first and race rubber covers up a lot of driving mistakes. When I started AXing it was advised to me to run at least a season on street tires first for that reason.

Chris

03-12-2008, 11:54 PM	#61
Stavesacre21 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Elida, OH Posts: 611	tony when you say race rubber, are you talking about the speed rating? Or just a dedicated race tire? These tires are Z rated summer performance tires, and i'm not sure if that puts it in race rubber catagory. They're not all-season tires, if that's what you mean. I was under the impression that street tires would be ok for race rubber...am i wrong? Wait a sec...so when it comes to racing, you want the most tread in the FRONT? Isn't it usually wanted in the back? Pardon my racing newbism __________________ 2010 Mazdaspeed3 Liquid Silver Metallic Daily Driver 2002 Corvette Convertible Millenium Yellow 22K miles, Summer ride

03-13-2008, 12:10 AM	#62
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,649	You do not have to have race tires for this event. I guess I thought you meant that. Probably the best thing for you to do is use your street tires since it is your first event. However, if you want to see what race tires will do for you, maybe sometime during the weekend you can swap them out. If I had to chose between the rear of my car sliding or the front of it, I opt for the rear. I use the better tires on the front since you have to turn left and right. __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

03-13-2008, 01:33 AM	#63
Stavesacre21 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Elida, OH Posts: 611	That'd be awefully nice of you tony. What's the longevity for racing tires usually? Couple track days? Just curious. I'd be curious to see what kinda difference race rubber would make over street performance rubber. Also, is there anything specific to look for when looking for helmets? Obviously SA-2005 is a biggie, but closed face/open face? brand? Here's one that stuck out when i first started looking. For a starters helmet, I really liked this one, but wasn't sure if it's SA-2005 certified. It says its a Snell 2005 certified, but reads M2005. A motorcycle helmet maybe? __________________ 2010 Mazdaspeed3 Liquid Silver Metallic Daily Driver 2002 Corvette Convertible Millenium Yellow 22K miles, Summer ride

03-13-2008, 07:40 AM	#64
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,649	It must be a SA 2005 helmet and not a M2005 helmet. There is a tremendous difference between race rubber and street tires. Like I said, use the street ones for part of the weekend and then switch to race tires. You'll never look back trust me. I have one like the first one but you can get an open face as long as it is "SA 2005". There are plenty of open face helmets from Simpson, Biffee, etc.... __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

03-13-2008, 08:30 AM	#65
Stavesacre21 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Elida, OH Posts: 611	alrighty thanx for all the help tony! __________________ 2010 Mazdaspeed3 Liquid Silver Metallic Daily Driver 2002 Corvette Convertible Millenium Yellow 22K miles, Summer ride

03-13-2008, 09:39 PM	#66
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,649	I usually go one season with race tires, that would be 4-5 events a year. __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

03-14-2008, 03:27 AM	#67
Stavesacre21 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Elida, OH Posts: 611	would race rubber be the same tire that's undrivable in the rain? I've checked out tirerack.com, and they only have 2 tires under the track/competition DOT that would fit my extra rims. That would be this one and this one. Am I on the right track here or are these the wrong kinds of tires? __________________ 2010 Mazdaspeed3 Liquid Silver Metallic Daily Driver 2002 Corvette Convertible Millenium Yellow 22K miles, Summer ride

03-14-2008, 09:58 PM	#68
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,649	V710 is what I recommend but I would wait and see if they throw a sale on some of the other competitive tires. I would wait till the last minute to get them just in case they have a closeout on that tire or another brand. __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

03-19-2008, 09:45 AM	#70
Stang66 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 33	Summit Show/No Borders National Show Just a little question for the Buckeye Stang group. Do you look at shows in the area before you plan a date or are you at the mercy of Summit Racing? The reason I ask is that a couple years ago the show was in the middle of July and didn't seem to conflict with other large Mustang shows. Last year it was the first weekend of August and it was the same weekend as the Lake Erie Mustang Owners Club Show in Erie, PA. We (LEMOC) have had it on the first weekend in August for almost 20 years except when we hosted our National Show in 2006. Most people can only go to one show in a weekend and have to make a choice. This year, the Summit Show is the same weekend as The No-Borders National Show in Welland that is in easy diving distance. This makes car owners have to choose which one to attend. I have attended the Summit Show for the past 4 years and enjoy it but this year I plan on going to the National Show in Canada. I realize that things happen but in the future, it would be better to check the area calender before you schedule a show. We moved the LEMOC Show to Aug. 10 because of the National Show and do look forward to as many members of the SVT Cobra Club to attend if possible.

03-19-2008, 07:32 PM	#71
psycho43142 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Milledgeville, OH Posts: 202	If you really abuse them the V710 might last 2 weekends, they are more of an AX tire than a road race tire, the V700 is more of a road race tire and will last much longer but the trade off is they have less grip. Hoosier A6 have the most grip but you would be lucky to get a weekend on a road course out of them. If I were you I'd just run street tires for at least a few track days as you have to learn to drive the car first and race rubber covers up a lot of driving mistakes. When I started AXing it was advised to me to run at least a season on street tires first for that reason. Chris

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