whipple installed .......horrible dyno numbers - Page 2

InfamousSVT · 07-17-2006, 08:39 AM

I've heard of Mustang Magic, but I can't tell you anything from them personally.

The guy you used obviously doesn't know a damn thing about tuning if he doesn't think you can run pump gas on 17psi. You can run as much boost as you want to and still use pump gas as long on the tune is made for that specific set-up. It seems that you've got all the supporting mods needed, so it looks as if it's the tune.
Also on a side note, if he could tune a car and made over 200 passes on the dyno to get 640rwhp on his car then he wasted his time. Running 25psi he should be way up there with hp, but that's also saying that he has the supporting mods for it too.

A tune is the most important thing for your car and it's life, so I would HIGHLY recommend that you don't use a guy that tunes on the side unless you just have the extra money to fix his screw ups, in my opinion.

Give a reputable tuner a call and talk with them. Rick at Amazon is a great guy to speak with and can give you advise even if you don't use him to tune the car, ATS is always willing to help others.

I hope you get everything worked out so that you are happy with the car and it last you a long time.

TRMN8TR · 07-17-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by InfamousSVT

I've heard of Mustang Magic, but I can't tell you anything from them personally.

The guy you used obviously doesn't know a damn thing about tuning if he doesn't think you can run pump gas on 17psi. You can run as much boost as you want to and still use pump gas as long on the tune is made for that specific set-up. It seems that you've got all the supporting mods needed, so it looks as if it's the tune.
Also on a side note, if he could tune a car and made over 200 passes on the dyno to get 640rwhp on his car then he wasted his time. Running 25psi he should be way up there with hp, but that's also saying that he has the supporting mods for it too.

A tune is the most important thing for your car and it's life, so I would HIGHLY recommend that you don't use a guy that tunes on the side unless you just have the extra money to fix his screw ups, in my opinion.

Give a reputable tuner a call and talk with them. Rick at Amazon is a great guy to speak with and can give you advise even if you don't use him to tune the car, ATS is always willing to help others.

I hope you get everything worked out so that you are happy with the car and it last you a long time.

x100 the tune IS everything for sure. Call Rick @ Amazon and they will take care of you for sure. My buddy's KB'd cobra with your same mods is making 650 at the tires with a 19lb pulley.

Who tuned your car???????

Don't get pissed or give up too soon.

Ram77mus · 07-17-2006, 10:35 PM

Yeah you are definately lacking some power. I've heard good things about Joe over at Mustang Magic. They had a 2003 that made some good power. Good Luck with it!

spincobra03 · 07-17-2006, 11:18 PM

I recommend the guys at pro dyno, YOU WONT FIND NICER or SMARTER. They will get it right. Hope it works out for you.

03slidewayzSVT · 07-18-2006, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by spincobra03

I recommend the guys at pro dyno, YOU WONT FIND NICER or SMARTER. They will get it right. Hope it works out for you.

+1
they had a whipple make 650 rwhp on 17lb....

ausie · 07-18-2006, 06:35 AM

Sorry to hear things went in the wrong direction. I was recommended to use Crazy Horse Racing in NJ but have not bothered to do any mods since I would rather avoid problems like the one's you have run into. It gets harder when there are no local tuners around or one's that specialize in the 03/04 Cobra's. The only two that come to mind are not local but Rick at Amazon Racing or Rob at prodyno may be alternatives if things do not proceed as expected.

mystic04 · 07-18-2006, 01:54 PM

Jon lund he has tuned many whippled cobras http://lundracing.com/ lives in media pa not very far from you only about 90 minute drive just stay out of the boost.he tunes your car while you drive on his laptop also has sensore for a/f you need to know any more go to http://www.svtperformance.com/
taste of home section then go to MACA and drop a post on jon lund you will get many replies on how good he is.

03bloodredsnake · 07-18-2006, 08:02 PM

my clutch is slipping maybe that could be part of the problem huh

03slidewayzSVT · 07-19-2006, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 03bloodredsnake

my clutch is slipping maybe that could be part of the problem huh

ya that could be it right there!!!! is it stock or what???? if you could put your graph on the screen....

03bloodredsnake · 07-19-2006, 11:16 AM

sorry i dont know how to put it up here dont you need a scanner for that.and yes the clutch is stock!

03bloodredsnake · 07-19-2006, 02:17 PM

well i called laurel mountain mustang and ordered a ram clutch a new steel flywheel, some hardened throwout bearings and a 26 spline input shaft set me back 700 or so $.hopefully not money down the drain but i guess any money spent on a car is in reality ,money down the drain, oh well got to have something motivating me to keep working

Linn@Amazon · 07-20-2006, 05:48 PM

you will not go wrong with MM...Joe is an old friend of ours and a great guy...

if you want Rick to work with you via email just give us a call 864 332 0955
he has been tuning 03 cobras almost exclusively since they were on the market in 2002..he has tuned many many Whippled 03/04 Cobras

Big T · 07-20-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 03bloodredsnake

sorry i dont know how to put it up here dont you need a scanner for that.and yes the clutch is stock!

Besides the numbers being crappy, how does your car feel driving it? I may have missed one of your posts but does your car feel alot faster than what you had before? Do you know anyone else that you could ride with with similar mods to see if your car is different? Mabye the dyno was calibrated wrong or something.

blk04cobra1 · 07-21-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 03bloodredsnake

well i called laurel mountain mustang and ordered a ram clutch a new steel flywheel, some hardened throwout bearings and a 26 spline input shaft set me back 700 or so $.hopefully not money down the drain but i guess any money spent on a car is in reality ,money down the drain, oh well got to have something motivating me to keep working

that's a good setup you got coming, should yield some good results...good luck

Eric_red94 · 07-21-2006, 11:06 AM

If you think money spent on you car is "money down the drain", then maybe you should sell it, there is a hot market for 03-04 cobras. Once the thrill is gone, why bother.

07-17-2006, 08:39 AM	#16
InfamousSVT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Gastonia, NC Posts: 1,960	I've heard of Mustang Magic, but I can't tell you anything from them personally. The guy you used obviously doesn't know a damn thing about tuning if he doesn't think you can run pump gas on 17psi. You can run as much boost as you want to and still use pump gas as long on the tune is made for that specific set-up. It seems that you've got all the supporting mods needed, so it looks as if it's the tune. Also on a side note, if he could tune a car and made over 200 passes on the dyno to get 640rwhp on his car then he wasted his time. Running 25psi he should be way up there with hp, but that's also saying that he has the supporting mods for it too. A tune is the most important thing for your car and it's life, so I would HIGHLY recommend that you don't use a guy that tunes on the side unless you just have the extra money to fix his screw ups, in my opinion. Give a reputable tuner a call and talk with them. Rick at Amazon is a great guy to speak with and can give you advise even if you don't use him to tune the car, ATS is always willing to help others. I hope you get everything worked out so that you are happy with the car and it last you a long time. __________________ 1994 Black on Black SVT Coupe 2004 SVT Cobra Competition Orange - SOLD 1979 Ghia Coupe - SOLD 1994 Chevy S-10 - DailyDriver

07-17-2006, 10:35 PM	#18
Ram77mus Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: SC Posts: 168	Yeah you are definately lacking some power. I've heard good things about Joe over at Mustang Magic. They had a 2003 that made some good power. Good Luck with it! __________________ SCT Level 4 Trained Tuner with over 12 years of experience in the automotive performance industries. Throttle, Bottle or Boost - First to the Finish Line "WINS" www.powercurvemotorsports.com

07-18-2006, 06:35 AM	#21
ausie Don't let the dog drive Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kinston, NC Posts: 1,883	Sorry to hear things went in the wrong direction. I was recommended to use Crazy Horse Racing in NJ but have not bothered to do any mods since I would rather avoid problems like the one's you have run into. It gets harder when there are no local tuners around or one's that specialize in the 03/04 Cobra's. The only two that come to mind are not local but Rick at Amazon Racing or Rob at prodyno may be alternatives if things do not proceed as expected. __________________ 2004 SVT Cobra, Silver, February 2004 SVT Build # 2485 out of 3768 SLP Loudmouth Cat-back UPR double lock firewall adjuster UPR GMS extreme double hook quadrant Wheels: Ford SVT 10th anniv. wheels (track duty) SVE 10th anniv. style 17x9F, 10x10.5R BBS RK Plasma 18x8.5F, 18x10R (retired) (retired) 2001 black SVT Cobra, October 2001 missed but not forgotten

07-18-2006, 08:02 PM	#23
03bloodredsnake Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: bethlehem pa Posts: 50	my clutch is slipping maybe that could be part of the problem huh __________________ 2003 svt cobra /redfire whippled terminator, lfp radiator,heat exchanger,coolant box,17lbs boost 604 hp 564 tourqeblack fr 500 wheels 18x9 up front and big meats in the back 18x10 wearing 295 bfgs.full mgw interior,steeda full lenth subframes,steeda irs bushings,steeda diff brace,slp loudmouth exhast and catted x pipe,mgw short throw shifter,accufab throttle body, best e.t 11.57@121 1.666 60ft

07-19-2006, 11:16 AM	#25
03bloodredsnake Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: bethlehem pa Posts: 50	sorry i dont know how to put it up here dont you need a scanner for that.and yes the clutch is stock! __________________ 2003 svt cobra /redfire whippled terminator, lfp radiator,heat exchanger,coolant box,17lbs boost 604 hp 564 tourqeblack fr 500 wheels 18x9 up front and big meats in the back 18x10 wearing 295 bfgs.full mgw interior,steeda full lenth subframes,steeda irs bushings,steeda diff brace,slp loudmouth exhast and catted x pipe,mgw short throw shifter,accufab throttle body, best e.t 11.57@121 1.666 60ft

07-17-2006, 11:18 PM	#19
spincobra03 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 129	I recommend the guys at pro dyno, YOU WONT FIND NICER or SMARTER. They will get it right. Hope it works out for you.

07-18-2006, 01:54 PM	#22
mystic04 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: pa Posts: 19	Jon lund he has tuned many whippled cobras http://lundracing.com/ lives in media pa not very far from you only about 90 minute drive just stay out of the boost.he tunes your car while you drive on his laptop also has sensore for a/f you need to know any more go to http://www.svtperformance.com/ taste of home section then go to MACA and drop a post on jon lund you will get many replies on how good he is.

07-19-2006, 02:17 PM	#26
03bloodredsnake Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: bethlehem pa Posts: 50	well i called laurel mountain mustang and ordered a ram clutch a new steel flywheel, some hardened throwout bearings and a 26 spline input shaft set me back 700 or so $.hopefully not money down the drain but i guess any money spent on a car is in reality ,money down the drain, oh well got to have something motivating me to keep working __________________ 2003 svt cobra /redfire whippled terminator, lfp radiator,heat exchanger,coolant box,17lbs boost 604 hp 564 tourqeblack fr 500 wheels 18x9 up front and big meats in the back 18x10 wearing 295 bfgs.full mgw interior,steeda full lenth subframes,steeda irs bushings,steeda diff brace,slp loudmouth exhast and catted x pipe,mgw short throw shifter,accufab throttle body, best e.t 11.57@121 1.666 60ft

07-20-2006, 05:48 PM	#27
Linn@Amazon Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 198	you will not go wrong with MM...Joe is an old friend of ours and a great guy... if you want Rick to work with you via email just give us a call 864 332 0955 he has been tuning 03 cobras almost exclusively since they were on the market in 2002..he has tuned many many Whippled 03/04 Cobras

07-21-2006, 11:06 AM	#30
Eric_red94 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Whiteland, IN Posts: 47	odd If you think money spent on you car is "money down the drain", then maybe you should sell it, there is a hot market for 03-04 cobras. Once the thrill is gone, why bother.

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