01 Cobra w/Vortech S/C ? - Page 2

SVTNICK · 05-14-2002, 07:48 PM

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'99 and up cars with the returnless fuel system can't/don't use FMU's to simulate larger injectors so they have to actually use larger injectors.

ahhhh..this explains why kenne bell has taken its time getting the 99-01 kit out...

by chance does anybody know what size injecters are in the 03????

I have yet to see it mentioned in any of the articles i have read.

once again thanks for your info..

-Nick

SVTNICK · 05-14-2002, 07:58 PM

the reason why i asked that question is that Im tempted to do what alot of you on here already have done, and thats to supercharge the stock block with the vortech....but the more ive read and talked to people, the more i think i should just go for it and have the block built from the ground up to be supercharged..meaning lower the compression maybe port the heads for improved flow..and maybe look into a new cam forged pistons..u know...the works....just for the sake of reliablity from step one (even though i know many people who have put thousand of miles on their supercharged cobras with absolutely no probs)

lets be honest here..if you were to do it all over again..what would you do different from the beginning...is there anything???

smashedheadcat · 05-14-2002, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by SVTNICK

lets be honest here..if you were to do it all over again..what would you do different from the beginning...is there anything???

800 HP Sean Hyland Shortblock
Stage 1 Heads
Titanium Valves
Blower cams
NOVI 2000
Blue Printed T-56
Mark Willams 9 inch rear
Tubular K-member/ A-arms w/ coil overs

Actually.... I'd do everything the same. Get a "safe tune" on the stock internals. I'd drive it as long as i possibly could while saving money for the built short block. If the engine lets go....... then get it fixed. For me...... it's easier to pay for my dream car than it is to throw money into it. What i mean by that is: I didn't put much money down on my car even though i could have. I took all that money i saved, and supercharged it etc etc. I'm living with the higher payment, but it's what i want. I'd give my car up in a heartbeat though for a 2000 R. But I just can't afford one.

Big Daddy · 05-14-2002, 08:55 PM

I would do just what I've done if I had to do it all over again! I figure I will eventually have to go to a new block and internals but I'm saving up for that day! Right now I'm enjoying the hell out of what I have!!! AND SMASHED look again!! I'm no longer SNAKELESS!

schechter · 05-17-2002, 06:16 PM

I agree. Perfect should not be the enemy of the good. The stock engine is pretty durable, and prevention beyond a reasonable point just doesn't make sense. You might look at it this way, compare the probability of needing a rebuild Xs the cost of a rebuild against the cost of taking all precaution against it.

smashedheadcat · 05-18-2002, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Big Daddy
SMASHED look again!! I'm no longer SNAKELESS!

I know right!! I'm more than happy for ya BigDaddy. Someday, i won't be snakeless. Enjoy your car enough for the both of us. Actually. I've got a good friend here with a white 98 cobra. It's super clean and he added Eibach PRO KIT and AFS chrome R's on it. The backs are 17x10.5's and he's got 315/35's on it. It's beautiful and he let me drive it the other day. So i was snakless for about a half hour.

Big Daddy · 05-18-2002, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by smashedheadcat

I know right!! I'm more than happy for ya BigDaddy. Someday, i won't be snakeless. Enjoy your car enough for the both of us. Actually. I've got a good friend here with a white 98 cobra. It's super clean and he added Eibach PRO KIT and AFS chrome R's on it. The backs are 17x10.5's and he's got 315/35's on it. It's beautiful and he let me drive it the other day. So i was snakless for about a half hour.

Cool I know it's a ***** being without!!

smashedheadcat · 05-19-2002, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by Big Daddy

Cool I know it's a ***** being without!!

Amen.

SVTNICK · 05-19-2002, 06:38 PM

im sure this question has been asked a million times, but im asking everybody i know who has different superchargers the same thing..

How is your MPG with your superchargers..can you give me an estimate of about what you are running around town and the highway in your Cobras???

Im my quest to build the perfect car that will be good at everything..its just one of those questions that has to be asked.

Thanks!!

tcrews · 05-19-2002, 07:19 PM

A supercharger will not affect your gas mileage at all unless you are always going into boost.

I averaged 24mpg on a trip to Maryland from South Carolina running 85-90mph all the way there (with many romps into boost). That was with 4.10 gears, and a Vortech supplied 425rwhp and 362rwtq.

For a nice big-block feel, a KB blower is definitely the way to go...and for a street only car it will be pretty nice.

For a strip/track car a centrifugal will definitely rule. The Cobra KB kit will max out at about 12+ psi and the Cobra Vortech will max out around 18+ psi. The KB will never make the horsepower the vortech's (or ATI or Paxtons) because the twin screw design limits the amount of air it can flow.

With all the bolt ons and a very good tune a KB can make about 450-470 rwhp. It's torque curve will be very nice though. This is with longtubes, MAF, smaller pulley, offroad X/H pipe, etc....

A vortech with a powerpipe and exhaust can make 460rwhp easily....or a vortech with a smaller pulley, or a vortech with aftercooler, or a vortech with upgraded impeller.........

It's a personal choice and you have to go with what you want.....big block low-end torque or high-rpm high-horsepower pull.

stradt14 · 05-26-2002, 11:56 PM

here are some pics of my 2001 cobra with the vortech http://photos.yahoo.com/stradt14

Jason

ballistic · 05-27-2002, 02:04 AM

Jason nice ride I see you have good taste in audio equipment as well.

stradt14 · 05-27-2002, 03:04 PM

thanks, not bad for a 20 year old punk ass

Jason

05-14-2002, 07:58 PM	#17
SVTNICK Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 77	the reason why i asked that question is that Im tempted to do what alot of you on here already have done, and thats to supercharge the stock block with the vortech....but the more ive read and talked to people, the more i think i should just go for it and have the block built from the ground up to be supercharged..meaning lower the compression maybe port the heads for improved flow..and maybe look into a new cam forged pistons..u know...the works....just for the sake of reliablity from step one (even though i know many people who have put thousand of miles on their supercharged cobras with absolutely no probs) lets be honest here..if you were to do it all over again..what would you do different from the beginning...is there anything??? __________________ 2001 Cobra. #3425 out of 3867 Build Date 8/24/01 1986 Mustang GT BLACK/t-tOPS 1986 Capri RS White/T-Tops 1999 Maxima SE NEW ARRIVAL1986 Mustang Convertible V6 and all..finally got it from my mom..took about 3 years..lol Now its time for the mods.

05-14-2002, 08:55 PM	#19
Big Daddy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 4,885	I would do just what I've done if I had to do it all over again! I figure I will eventually have to go to a new block and internals but I'm saving up for that day! Right now I'm enjoying the hell out of what I have!!! AND SMASHED look again!! I'm no longer SNAKELESS! __________________ 2008 Shelby GT500 White w/Blue Stripes STOCK AND STAYING THAT WAY! Kenny Brown '01 Cobra S Serial # 01-047C True Blue Performance Forged Short Block FR500 Heads & Cams, Fluidyne Radiator McLeod Clutch and aluminum flywheel Aluminum Driveshaft, UPR adjustable clutch cable GT40 Fuel Tank & pumps, Kenne Bell Boost-a-Pump, 60lb injectors, Vortech T-Trim W/After Cooler, 2.9" RR Pulley Anderson Power Pipe, Accufab Throttle Body (USELESS IMHO), MGW Shifter with the blue handle KB Oil Cooling system, KB Differential Cooler Autometer Phantom boost and fuel pressure guages Kenny Brown Aero Kit, Kooks LT Headers H-Pipe with H-flow cats, Bassani Cat Back Snow Boost Cooler T56 Six Speed Tranny MGW BLING-BLING interior stuff 645RWHP and 558RWTQ

05-17-2002, 06:16 PM	#20
schechter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 41	I agree. Perfect should not be the enemy of the good. The stock engine is pretty durable, and prevention beyond a reasonable point just doesn't make sense. You might look at it this way, compare the probability of needing a rebuild Xs the cost of a rebuild against the cost of taking all precaution against it. __________________ 98 Laser Red Convertible SCMC #00436 Autopower 6-pt Roll Bar Safety Harness Steeda HP Brake upgrade Ford Racing 11" Clutch Upgrade Bilstein Struts & Shocks Vortech V-2 SQ Supercharger & Aftercooler C&R Aluminum Radiator & 180 Degree Thermostat MSD DIS-4 Ignition Box Steeda Battery Trunk Remount Phantom Fuel Pressure and Boost Gauges 4.10's Abbott ERA Alum Drive Shaft Bassani X Pipe & Cats Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Some Related & Appearance Stuff

05-19-2002, 06:38 PM	#24
SVTNICK Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 77	im sure this question has been asked a million times, but im asking everybody i know who has different superchargers the same thing.. How is your MPG with your superchargers..can you give me an estimate of about what you are running around town and the highway in your Cobras??? Im my quest to build the perfect car that will be good at everything..its just one of those questions that has to be asked. Thanks!! __________________ 2001 Cobra. #3425 out of 3867 Build Date 8/24/01 1986 Mustang GT BLACK/t-tOPS 1986 Capri RS White/T-Tops 1999 Maxima SE NEW ARRIVAL1986 Mustang Convertible V6 and all..finally got it from my mom..took about 3 years..lol Now its time for the mods.

05-19-2002, 07:19 PM	#25
tcrews Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 878	A supercharger will not affect your gas mileage at all unless you are always going into boost. I averaged 24mpg on a trip to Maryland from South Carolina running 85-90mph all the way there (with many romps into boost). That was with 4.10 gears, and a Vortech supplied 425rwhp and 362rwtq. For a nice big-block feel, a KB blower is definitely the way to go...and for a street only car it will be pretty nice. For a strip/track car a centrifugal will definitely rule. The Cobra KB kit will max out at about 12+ psi and the Cobra Vortech will max out around 18+ psi. The KB will never make the horsepower the vortech's (or ATI or Paxtons) because the twin screw design limits the amount of air it can flow. With all the bolt ons and a very good tune a KB can make about 450-470 rwhp. It's torque curve will be very nice though. This is with longtubes, MAF, smaller pulley, offroad X/H pipe, etc.... A vortech with a powerpipe and exhaust can make 460rwhp easily....or a vortech with a smaller pulley, or a vortech with aftercooler, or a vortech with upgraded impeller......... It's a personal choice and you have to go with what you want.....big block low-end torque or high-rpm high-horsepower pull. __________________ Tom Crews 1997 Cobra Coupe #3672, SCMC #82 571 rwHP 462 rwTQ ------- 1998 Cobra Convertible 264 rwHP 268 rwTQ Tom's SVT Cobra Page

05-26-2002, 11:56 PM	#26
stradt14 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: dearborn heights, Michigan Posts: 4	here are some pics of my 2001 cobra with the vortech http://photos.yahoo.com/stradt14 Jason __________________ 2001 Performance Red Vobra 12.97@ 107 Before Vortech 464rwhp 410rwtq

05-27-2002, 02:04 AM	#27
ballistic Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Eugene OR. U.S.A. Posts: 35	Jason nice ride I see you have good taste in audio equipment as well. __________________ 2001 cobra #2566 true blue w/charcoal interior

05-27-2002, 03:04 PM	#28
stradt14 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: dearborn heights, Michigan Posts: 4	thanks, not bad for a 20 year old punk ass Jason __________________ 2001 Performance Red Vobra 12.97@ 107 Before Vortech 464rwhp 410rwtq

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