offroad x-pipe or h-pipe for 01 Cobra - Page 3

JC · 09-12-2002, 08:59 AM

Josh:

Tom gave you the rundown of my little odyssey with MAC... Thanks for saving me the time to write it up Tom !!!

I have nothing against you, and my reply was not meant to be mean towards anybody. The goal of my original post was only to inform possible MAC customers of the fundamental problems with MAC as a company that makes products for our cars.

I wanted to share my lack of trust with MAC as a company and for their lack of support to customers who purchased their LT headers who had to replace engines soon thereafter. If I can save a fellow cobra owner for making the same mistake I made (to the tune of $7,000 +) by not choosing to use MAC products then I think I've been of a little help. I have more dislike for that company than you know !!!

Anyhow, there are better companies out there that for very little more will give you a product that will be 100% better engineered and manufactured than MAC (Bassani, Borla, Magnaflow, JBA, BBK,)

smashedheadcat · 09-12-2002, 04:56 PM

Right on. I can see the logic behind you hating MAC and it's products. Obviously, they have strong issues that need to be addressed on their headers. I personally haven't lost an engine due to MAC, so I honestly can't relate. I'm sure i'd be angry too. I know what it's like to lose and engine, and believe me, it felt like someone kicked me in the ...uh, down there. A rebuild for me costed me more than 1/3 of my year's salary..... If the problem came from a specific part made by a specific company....... then..... anyway, i understand your anger, and if a lesson can be learned by this, then this thread has did itself justice.

blown92gt · 09-14-2002, 02:20 PM

I don't like mac's either but I have a question, how can you have oil problems or any other problems by just installing headers unless you had a major leak. I've been in the car scene awhile and although I've not used mac headers I do have many friends who have tried them and did not have any trouble with them other than it fitting like crap, but no motor problems.

tcrews · 09-14-2002, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by blown92gt
I don't like mac's either but I have a question, how can you have oil problems or any other problems by just installing headers unless you had a major leak.

It's a known problem on the 4.6 DOHC engines only, no one has ever come up with the definite answer as to why but the situation is true. 99.9% of all 4.6 DOHC owners who have installed MAC longtube headers have had to have engine rebuilds. The .1% that hasn't usually had spent a lot of time cleaning up the ports on the headers to remove a lot of rough sides and left over slag from the manufacturing process.

5.0's don't have this problem nor do the 4.6 SOHC engines.

JC may have investigated the problem a little more since it happened to him and he may be able to provide more information on what causes the problem.

smashedheadcat · 09-17-2002, 05:57 PM

Hmm... Just cuz i was bored *(waiting for my car to get put together) i took a dremel tool, and cleaned up the "bird sh*t" off the inside of the header's primaries. I don't know if that did anything, but it didn't look like it'd hurt any. I've got BBK's btw.

1-QIK-SNK · 10-11-2002, 09:31 AM

Dose anyone have a ORH or a ORX that they have laying around that they would like to get rid of? I have a bassani x-pipw w/ cat and dynomax(12") race bullets and it is loud as it sits now. Would like to get it a little louder. If you have one laying around email me here millerk@bright.net and let me know what ya got and what you want out of it.
I have the bullets 18" on my 89 with a ORH and let me tell you that is very very loud.

1-QIK-SNK · 10-11-2002, 09:33 AM

I forgot to say this would be for a 96 cobra.

JAYSLOSTBOYZ · 10-11-2002, 01:49 PM

I need some help? I have bbk o/r xpipe ,I want deep loud sound,no tin sound like flowmaster when deceleration,can some one please help me decide on a new cat-back.I'm really not sure need help!

28 Fangs · 10-11-2002, 02:42 PM

I agree with cobrabitten and 01 silver snake.your paying way to much for the stainless.Especially if you take to consideration that you get a very small (if any)performance gain for about an extra 250 to 300 large ones.It's insane

.the macs are definitely the better bang for your buck.96 black on black snake

BlackStallion Racing · 10-23-2002, 08:13 PM

Magnaflows... 'nuff said...

All Stainless and excellent fit, finish, performance for under $400 delivered (Low $300 if you have a solid axle)

Their X-pipe witrhout cats and the CB will rock your world Ferrari style...

09-12-2002, 08:59 AM	#31
JC Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Planet Mustang Posts: 56	smashedheadcat Josh: Tom gave you the rundown of my little odyssey with MAC... Thanks for saving me the time to write it up Tom !!! I have nothing against you, and my reply was not meant to be mean towards anybody. The goal of my original post was only to inform possible MAC customers of the fundamental problems with MAC as a company that makes products for our cars. I wanted to share my lack of trust with MAC as a company and for their lack of support to customers who purchased their LT headers who had to replace engines soon thereafter. If I can save a fellow cobra owner for making the same mistake I made (to the tune of $7,000 +) by not choosing to use MAC products then I think I've been of a little help. I have more dislike for that company than you know !!! Anyhow, there are better companies out there that for very little more will give you a product that will be 100% better engineered and manufactured than MAC (Bassani, Borla, Magnaflow, JBA, BBK,) __________________ JC 2003 Mineral Gray Cobra Stock !!! Really... with black supercharger option ~~~ 1997 Rio Red Cobra BOOST assisted !!! No "LFP" for me !!!

09-12-2002, 04:56 PM	#32
smashedheadcat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Geneva, Switzerland Posts: 1,727	Right on. I can see the logic behind you hating MAC and it's products. Obviously, they have strong issues that need to be addressed on their headers. I personally haven't lost an engine due to MAC, so I honestly can't relate. I'm sure i'd be angry too. I know what it's like to lose and engine, and believe me, it felt like someone kicked me in the ...uh, down there. A rebuild for me costed me more than 1/3 of my year's salary..... If the problem came from a specific part made by a specific company....... then..... anyway, i understand your anger, and if a lesson can be learned by this, then this thread has did itself justice. __________________ Josh 2003 Oxford White Cobra Coupe Twin Turbo Solid Axle Automatic Return Fuel System 1997 Triple Black Cobra Convertible Forged and Blown. 511rwhp 398 rwtq Sold

09-17-2002, 05:57 PM	#35
smashedheadcat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Geneva, Switzerland Posts: 1,727	Hmm... Just cuz i was bored (waiting for my car to get put together) i took a dremel tool, and cleaned up the "bird sht" off the inside of the header's primaries. I don't know if that did anything, but it didn't look like it'd hurt any. I've got BBK's btw. __________________ Josh 2003 Oxford White Cobra Coupe Twin Turbo Solid Axle Automatic Return Fuel System 1997 Triple Black Cobra Convertible Forged and Blown. 511rwhp 398 rwtq Sold

10-11-2002, 01:49 PM	#38
JAYSLOSTBOYZ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: ft plain Posts: 17	I need some help? I have bbk o/r xpipe ,I want deep loud sound,no tin sound like flowmaster when deceleration,can some one please help me decide on a new cat-back.I'm really not sure need help! __________________ i live my life fast,love to have fun need for speed

10-23-2002, 08:13 PM	#40
BlackStallion Racing Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 648	Magnaflows... 'nuff said... All Stainless and excellent fit, finish, performance for under $400 delivered (Low $300 if you have a solid axle) Their X-pipe witrhout cats and the CB will rock your world Ferrari style... __________________ =~=~=~=~= BlackStallion =~=~=~=~= 2001 Cobra Vert Blk/Blk/Drk Charcoal #1626 of 3384 - Built May 18th, 2001

09-14-2002, 02:20 PM	#33
blown92gt Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 58	I don't like mac's either but I have a question, how can you have oil problems or any other problems by just installing headers unless you had a major leak. I've been in the car scene awhile and although I've not used mac headers I do have many friends who have tried them and did not have any trouble with them other than it fitting like crap, but no motor problems.

10-11-2002, 09:31 AM	#36
1-QIK-SNK SCMC Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kill Devil Hills, NC Posts: 531	Dose anyone have a ORH or a ORX that they have laying around that they would like to get rid of? I have a bassani x-pipw w/ cat and dynomax(12") race bullets and it is loud as it sits now. Would like to get it a little louder. If you have one laying around email me here millerk@bright.net and let me know what ya got and what you want out of it. I have the bullets 18" on my 89 with a ORH and let me tell you that is very very loud.

10-11-2002, 09:33 AM	#37
1-QIK-SNK SCMC Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kill Devil Hills, NC Posts: 531	I forgot to say this would be for a 96 cobra.

10-11-2002, 02:42 PM	#39
28 Fangs Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tejas... Posts: 32	I agree with cobrabitten and 01 silver snake.your paying way to much for the stainless.Especially if you take to consideration that you get a very small (if any)performance gain for about an extra 250 to 300 large ones.It's insane .the macs are definitely the better bang for your buck.96 black on black snake

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