CMP Paid Entries - Page 3

johnbasf · 01-21-2004, 07:37 PM

I let non members out with a passenger last year.

I think we can use our good judgement to see who should be allowed.

Tim, we do treat everyone the same. Don't forget last March.

timz06 · 01-21-2004, 08:15 PM

John, a lot of brain cells have gone to the wayside between then and now.

TIm

**cobrabitn** · 01-21-2004, 09:16 PM

Tim,

On the issue of passengers, my first question, is there someone you have in mind that you want to have ride with you? If so, we can discuss this in more detail off the board.

Secondly, it's a familiarity thing. I've seen Larry at many SCMC events and he is a safe driver that would not take risks with his wife in the car.

SCMC will not let someone who just attended their first event or first few events with us have passengers unless they are a qualified instructor. Last year we had an accident at TWS and in a previous year we had an incident at Gingerman Raceway where a non-member had no regard for the safety of our club members and almost ran over one of them. After this incident we felt the need to have stricter standards.

No, the rules do not apply to everyone at the same level. Each person will be judged on an individual basis according to their driving skills and their regard for the safety of their passengers and other drivers.

We put that on the form so others will not show up with passengers in tow assuming they can have passengers without some sort of demonstration of safety awareness and level of driving skills that meet the club's safety policies.

I think you know we are pretty easy to get along with and you have made many friends at our events but please try to understand that our primary concern is safety.

timz06 · 01-21-2004, 09:53 PM

Guys,

thanks for your answers, I would say that a better general statement would be that passengers could be approved by the lead instructor etc. I am not trying to rile you up, but last year I did about 15 events with different clubs including yours, mustang, bmwcca, pca, and viperdays, as well as paid events such as panoz, speedventures, and tracquest. Maybe the word 'club'just bothers me, since even though I don't own a cobra, I feel I am a part of the group as well.

Tim

**cobrabitn** · 01-21-2004, 10:48 PM

And yes, we do feel like you part of the group and maybe one day you will see the light and buy a Cobra. (Shhhh... we are trying to convert you...

)

After all, you did convert some guy from MN, who claims to have two 2000 Cobra R's but never runs them, into buying a Z06 and just recently another TN member bought one too.

Don't let the word "club" bother you. A club has many benefits besides tangible ones. Take for example, you may not have ever met many of us if we were not a club. Try to take the positives out of it and go with that.

BTW John, Please change Jayne McNutt as having a 2002 ZO6 instead of a Cobra. Thanks!

Tony

justagt · 01-22-2004, 11:39 AM

IMHO, I/you/we/da' club may want to keep from saying that only passengers can ride with members. Like Tim said, that is kind of lame and I think would discourage someone with experience from coming to the event because they aren't a member. Word is out the the CMP deal last year went well and many are waiting on this year's event.

On the ride thing, I feel like it should be known as a case-to-case scenario to be determined at the time, similar to what you were saying, Tony. I think only instructors and certain run groups should have them and not first or even second timers, but not based on if they are a SCMC member or not.

SIUNARA · 01-22-2004, 10:38 PM

Make sure your harness is buckled tight if you ride with farmer Will...he likes to check up on his crops in turn 4 from time to time.

I agree with Will on the passenger thing...do it case-by-case, not by club member status. As long as people are safe, let them do it. It's nice that we have other people willing to come out to have fun and help support the clubs events...even if their car sports a bowtie.

tomsgarage · 01-22-2004, 10:49 PM

I have a question about Helmets for this event. I just purchased a Full Face Helmet built to the Snell M2000 Standard, and from what I am reading regarding Helmet requirements, I understand that it is the Minimum Helmet required. Is that correct?

Also, this was a great event last year, even in the rain! I can't wait to get back on the track!!

Tom Griffin
03 Cobra Coupe
Chapin, SC

2KWhiteSnake · 01-23-2004, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tomsgarage
I have a question about Helmets for this event. I just purchased a Full Face Helmet built to the Snell M2000 Standard, and from what I am reading regarding Helmet requirements, I understand that it is the Minimum Helmet required. Is that correct?

Also, this was a great event last year, even in the rain! I can't wait to get back on the track!!

Tom Griffin
03 Cobra Coupe
Chapin, SC

I could have sworn it was "SA" and not "M" since "M" isn't made for multiple impacts, but maybe John Pearson can chime in.

Craig

**Cobra-R** · 01-23-2004, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cobrabitn

After all, you did convert some guy from MN, who claims to have two 2000 Cobra R's but never runs them, into buying a Z06 and just recently another TN member bought one too.

Ahhh, so it's Tim fault?????? Cool, I will tell my wife right away, so she knows I am not responable for my actions.

johnbasf · 01-23-2004, 05:48 PM

I did not write the track rules. Maybe Tony can clear the helmet issue up.

johnbasf · 01-23-2004, 08:09 PM

Updated!!

The TA has a ton of mods. Sounds nice.

**cobrabitn** · 01-23-2004, 10:31 PM

Tom,

You should really have an SA rated helmet for open track events. They are for made multiple impacts just in case of a mishap. A motorcycle helmet, M rated, should be used for a motorcyle. Invest in your safety and get something quality for that old noggin.

johnbasf · 01-24-2004, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cobrabitn
Tom,

You should really have an SA rated helmet for open track events. They are for made multiple impacts just in case of a mishap. A motorcycle helmet, M rated, should be used for a motorcyle. Invest in your safety and get something quality for that old noggin.

So, we will allow the SM 2000 helmet or not?

Hazman · 01-24-2004, 11:16 AM

Hey John
The east TN contingent is growing!! So far Jayne & I, Jeff Miller, Ben Loope, and Greg Kidd. I think we may have 3 or 4 of the local Impala SS crew coming. Don't let these cars fool you they are faster than you think. I am trying to talk a couple of Z06s into coming along with some of our own SCMC folks. Counting the days to CMP!!!!

01-21-2004, 07:37 PM	#31
johnbasf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lewisville,NC Posts: 2,674	I let non members out with a passenger last year. I think we can use our good judgement to see who should be allowed. Tim, we do treat everyone the same. Don't forget last March. __________________ John Pearson

01-21-2004, 08:15 PM	#32
timz06 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 112	John, a lot of brain cells have gone to the wayside between then and now. TIm __________________ 2001 z06

01-21-2004, 09:16 PM	#33
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,649	Tim, On the issue of passengers, my first question, is there someone you have in mind that you want to have ride with you? If so, we can discuss this in more detail off the board. Secondly, it's a familiarity thing. I've seen Larry at many SCMC events and he is a safe driver that would not take risks with his wife in the car. SCMC will not let someone who just attended their first event or first few events with us have passengers unless they are a qualified instructor. Last year we had an accident at TWS and in a previous year we had an incident at Gingerman Raceway where a non-member had no regard for the safety of our club members and almost ran over one of them. After this incident we felt the need to have stricter standards. No, the rules do not apply to everyone at the same level. Each person will be judged on an individual basis according to their driving skills and their regard for the safety of their passengers and other drivers. We put that on the form so others will not show up with passengers in tow assuming they can have passengers without some sort of demonstration of safety awareness and level of driving skills that meet the club's safety policies. I think you know we are pretty easy to get along with and you have made many friends at our events but please try to understand that our primary concern is safety. __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

01-21-2004, 09:53 PM	#34
timz06 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 112	Guys, thanks for your answers, I would say that a better general statement would be that passengers could be approved by the lead instructor etc. I am not trying to rile you up, but last year I did about 15 events with different clubs including yours, mustang, bmwcca, pca, and viperdays, as well as paid events such as panoz, speedventures, and tracquest. Maybe the word 'club'just bothers me, since even though I don't own a cobra, I feel I am a part of the group as well. Tim __________________ 2001 z06

01-22-2004, 11:39 AM	#36
justagt Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Salisbury, NC Posts: 299	IMHO, I/you/we/da' club may want to keep from saying that only passengers can ride with members. Like Tim said, that is kind of lame and I think would discourage someone with experience from coming to the event because they aren't a member. Word is out the the CMP deal last year went well and many are waiting on this year's event. On the ride thing, I feel like it should be known as a case-to-case scenario to be determined at the time, similar to what you were saying, Tony. I think only instructors and certain run groups should have them and not first or even second timers, but not based on if they are a SCMC member or not. __________________ Will #32 joegibbsracingoil.com

01-21-2004, 10:48 PM	#35
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,649	And yes, we do feel like you part of the group and maybe one day you will see the light and buy a Cobra. (Shhhh... we are trying to convert you... ) After all, you did convert some guy from MN, who claims to have two 2000 Cobra R's but never runs them, into buying a Z06 and just recently another TN member bought one too. Don't let the word "club" bother you. A club has many benefits besides tangible ones. Take for example, you may not have ever met many of us if we were not a club. Try to take the positives out of it and go with that. BTW John, Please change Jayne McNutt as having a 2002 ZO6 instead of a Cobra. Thanks! Tony

01-22-2004, 10:38 PM	#37
SIUNARA Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: State College, Pa. Posts: 374	Make sure your harness is buckled tight if you ride with farmer Will...he likes to check up on his crops in turn 4 from time to time. I agree with Will on the passenger thing...do it case-by-case, not by club member status. As long as people are safe, let them do it. It's nice that we have other people willing to come out to have fun and help support the clubs events...even if their car sports a bowtie. __________________ Don Page 95 Cobra

01-22-2004, 10:49 PM	#38
tomsgarage SCMC Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chapin,SC Posts: 74	I have a question about Helmets for this event. I just purchased a Full Face Helmet built to the Snell M2000 Standard, and from what I am reading regarding Helmet requirements, I understand that it is the Minimum Helmet required. Is that correct? Also, this was a great event last year, even in the rain! I can't wait to get back on the track!! Tom Griffin 03 Cobra Coupe Chapin, SC

01-23-2004, 05:48 PM	#41
johnbasf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lewisville,NC Posts: 2,674	I did not write the track rules. Maybe Tony can clear the helmet issue up. __________________ John Pearson

01-23-2004, 08:09 PM	#42
johnbasf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lewisville,NC Posts: 2,674	Updated!! The TA has a ton of mods. Sounds nice. __________________ John Pearson

01-23-2004, 10:31 PM	#43
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,649	Tom, You should really have an SA rated helmet for open track events. They are for made multiple impacts just in case of a mishap. A motorcycle helmet, M rated, should be used for a motorcyle. Invest in your safety and get something quality for that old noggin.

01-24-2004, 11:16 AM	#45
Hazman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Harriman, TN Posts: 823	Hey John The east TN contingent is growing!! So far Jayne & I, Jeff Miller, Ben Loope, and Greg Kidd. I think we may have 3 or 4 of the local Impala SS crew coming. Don't let these cars fool you they are faster than you think. I am trying to talk a couple of Z06s into coming along with some of our own SCMC folks. Counting the days to CMP!!!!

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