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Old 12-22-2001, 02:56 PM   #46
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Actually, yes!! Cool Thanks!! I never turn down items... ya sure you don't want$??

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Cool, just email me your address
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Old 12-22-2001, 06:38 PM   #47
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Cool, just email me your address
OK I did

Let me know if you didn't get it..

thanks again!!!
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OK I did

Let me know if you didn't get it..

thanks again!!!
Lisa, I did not get your address. For some reason this site will not send me emails. I hope they figure out why.

send it to destuart@charter.net
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Old 12-24-2001, 12:38 AM   #49
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Lisa, I did not get your address. For some reason this site will not send me emails. I hope they figure out why.

send it to destuart@charter.net

OK i tried it.....post me if it still didn't work...
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OK i tried it.....post me if it still didn't work.
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Old 12-26-2001, 02:24 PM   #51
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I know I'm coming in a little late on the discussion but here goes...

On corners vs. straights I have two experiences to share. I used to open track a modified Triumph TR-6, 2200 lb., 140 hp. This gave me a very clear understanding of how to use the turns to gain speed on the straights. I can remember a ceratin 5.0 Mustang. This guy would tip toe through the turns then nail it on the straights. I was able to hang back a little, nail the turn and before he even knew what happened I was already beside him and pulling away.

Many years ago, I got a chance to talk at length with Willy T. Ribbs at Road America. One thing he mentioned that really got me thinking was that they GAINED some speed on the main straight by ADDING a little wing. This struck me as just opposite of what I understood, but he explained that it let him exit the turn faster therefore helping his straight speed.

Straight line speed is the goal, but the corners are one of the tools to get there.
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Old 12-26-2001, 02:26 PM   #52
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Fear? To quote a shirt that Christa gave me:
"SOME FEAR, 'cause if you've never been scared (just a little) you're not going as fast as you could"
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Old 01-16-2002, 01:50 AM   #53
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I am a firm believer in getting the corners right first. I've caught up with way too many cars, including vipers, because my car can take the corners. They would take off and leave me in the straights only because of sheer HP, but I would catch up in the next braking zone and stay with them in the curves.

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I know I'm a little behind on this one.
hey, what can I say?

However,
Tim and I agree with Tom 150% -

corners - get them right.

Hey - the Cobra R took off on me in the straights right?

But, why the heck was I catching up with him in the corners?

Cuz he wasn't hitting them correctly. I ofcourse, had a slower car.

But I was catching up with him anyway ...

cuz I was learning how to take the corners correctly !!
(Thanks to Jeff)
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We could go over to the Secrets of Driving fast thread and talk about this there but corner exit speed is the key to having fast laps! AND I agree that practice is what I need. I THOUGHT I could drive fast on curves given where I live but man what you learn doing it on a track is another ballgame!

GIVE ME THE TWISTIES!!

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OK, BD. You there?

Anyway -
I agree.

I used to get the twisties too -

But after going to Gingerman - which has allot of turns ..



I am hooked ..
I mean hooked !!

I can't get enough of it.

I am very cautious in traffic ..

however, if I have an open road ..

nobody around ...

I will practice my turn in, my apex, turn out ..

speed, etc. etc.

Tim and I search for cloverleafs - with nobody on them.

Yes - the track presents a much more difficult pattern.

However - it's right there for you. All you have to do is take it!! We don't have to worry about the speed limits - or the road laws.

It is so much fun - it's kind of like a "high" --

very addictive !!

I have allot to learn -
I need practice.



too bad it's snowing out today ...
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I.

Straight line speed is the goal, but the corners are one of the tools to get there.





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Nice to see you on the forum Tom !!


I agree - the corners, the turns, the curves, whatever you wanna call them ..

most anyone can figure out basically how to go fast on a straight .. (imho)

however, put it together with the turns/curves -

Now that's called driving on the edge !!
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Fear? To quote a shirt that Christa gave me:
"SOME FEAR, 'cause if you've never been scared (just a little) you're not going as fast as you could"

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yup -

FEAR.

I definitely had it.

And, I know I will have it at my upcoming events ...

but, I'm realizing that fear is important - not a lot.
If you don't have any fear you either:

Like Tom says aren't driving fast enough.

Or: your crazy ... and your gonna wreck your car ...

Fear can work for you and against you. You can't live without it - but you don't want to have too much of it to prevent you from doing what it is your trying to achieve.

Thanks to Jeff Lacina at Gingerman -

now I can use my "fear" to "help" me !!
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We could go over to the Secrets of Driving fast thread and talk about this there but corner exit speed is the key to having fast laps! AND I agree that practice is what I need. I THOUGHT I could drive fast on curves given where I live but man what you learn doing it on a track is another ballgame!

GIVE ME THE TWISTIES!!

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OK, BD. You there?

Anyway -
I agree.

I used to get the twisties too -

But after going to Gingerman - which has allot of turns ..



I am hooked ..
I mean hooked !!

I can't get enough of it.

I am very cautious in traffic ..

however, if I have an open road ..

nobody around ...

I will practice my turn in, my apex, turn out ..

speed, etc. etc.

Tim and I search for cloverleafs - with nobody on them.

Yes - the track presents a much more difficult pattern.

However - it's right there for you. All you have to do is take it!! We don't have to worry about the speed limits - or the road laws.

It is so much fun - it's kind of like a "high" --

very addictive !!

I have allot to learn -
I need practice.



too bad it's snowing out today ...
Yes, I'm here but I'm about to leave the client site so I'll be down the rest of the night. I don't have to search for empty roads that have lots of turns!! I live in the curviest road part of the country. Only problem is you can never be quiet sure there won't be a vehicle coming the other way (lots of blind curves!) SO I don't go as fast as I could if I used both lanes! I am really hooked after one session at Indy last year. I'm looking to make 8 events this year and get my competitive license for next year! WHOOO HOOOO! see ya tomorrow! BYE
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I don't have to search for empty roads that have lots of turns!! I live in the curviest road part of the country. Only problem is you can never be quiet sure there won't be a vehicle coming the other way (lots of blind curves!) SO I don't go as fast as I could if I used both lanes! I am really hooked after one session at Indy last year. I'm looking to make 8 events this year and get my competitive license for next year! WHOOO HOOOO! see ya tomorrow! BYE

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I'm jealous - I gotta admit.

We have to search for empty roads with a magnifying glass - they are hard to find.

Curves? We got em, but you can see what's around the bend, and theres usually someone in the way anyway ..

but - we find 'em.

There's some straight west of here -

You've gotta head away from the city

Take care and have fun!

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and don't go any faster than I would ya hear?


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Bonny go west. Not far, just get out of the 'burbs. You'll find far less traffic, plenty of country roads. My Chicago friends tell me it's a whole different world out here. Perfect for my other bad habit, cycling too.

Is that Blackhawk Farms I hear calling?
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Is that you signed up for Road America in April with the 96 Cobra in the #62 spot? Looking forward to finally meeting you if it is.

Are you planning on going to Atlanta also?
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