Gingerman Driving School Sept 17 & 18th 2005 - Page 6

Lumpydogs · 07-15-2005, 09:16 AM

Just a few things that I thought Guest shouldn't do.

One novice decided to have breakfast instead of attending the morning
drivers meeting. Later he failed to acknowledge the black flag and then
spun again at turn 2. Another experienced driver was giving rides to
friends even though he was told not to. Eventually the track personel
pulled him off the track. Finally a non-registered participant found his
way into the drivers seat for a session or two. When the track personel
caught him, he got lippy with them.

These are all decent people but being business owners or the sons of
business owners they have the mentallity that rules are for other people.
In the past they have lost brakes, dropped fluid and blown motors on track
due to failure to perform the required pre-event maintenance.

I am probably over reacting but as guests of mine I was not happy with
the way they behaved.

I had already decided not to invite them back this year. (Let them tear up
the Viper Club events without me) However, if we are in need of more drivers
I can extend the invite.

I figured that I would let the club decide if they are welcome.

p.s. I am not a stick in the mud, but I do believe that the rules at the track
need to be followed.

NJ2000R · 07-15-2005, 12:09 PM

now that you mentioned it, I do remember hearing about someone driving that wasnt registered....definately not a good thing....same applies to not attending the drivers meeting....we should probably take a quick head count at the meeting and check off names....I'll let brian and tom chime in....

tgentry · 07-15-2005, 01:08 PM

I have been to other events where they have a roll call at the driver's meeting. You don't go to the meeting, you don't drive until the next meeting. This could be something to consider, at least for novices.

**Cobra-R** · 07-18-2005, 09:34 PM

updated

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Originally Posted by Cobra-R

Participant list:

Participant list:

1. William Simmons, Royal Oak MI, 03 Cobra
2. Ken & Karen Walder, Wyckoff NJ, 00 Cobra R
3. Bruce Cameron, Waukesha WI, 00 Cobra R (Z06 wana-bee)
4. Jeff Talley, Merriville IN, 03 Cobra
5. Paul Sanford, Youngsville PA, 03 Lightning
6. Jayne Mcnutt, Harriman TN, Z06 Corvette *
7. Rick Mcnutt, HarrimanTN, 97 Cobra *
8. Dan Mroz, Merriville IN, 03 Superformance Cobra
9. Dave Stanfield, Raleigh NC, 99 Cobra
10. Charlie Sansone, Grayslake IL, 01 Mustang Bullitt
11. Carrol DoWeese, Birmingham MI, 02 Superformance MarkIII
12. Larry Bolton, Battle Creek MI, 97 Cobra
13. Dave Diehl, Hamilton OH, 95 Cobra R
14. Tony Sorrentino, Rock Hill SC, 94 Cobra
15, Jeffrey White, Mi. 01 Cobra

Instructors:*
1, Tom Gentry, Rockford IL, 96 Cobra
2, Mike Schneider, Livonia, Mi.
3, Cliff Hemstock, Lexington, Ky.
4, Damian Delahuerta, Osseo, mn

*: Instructors, I won't add your name to the List until I have recieved your registration form. If you have questions on how to handle it, let me know.
Thanks, Brian

**Cobra-R** · 07-18-2005, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NJ2000R

now that you mentioned it, I do remember hearing about someone driving that wasnt registered....definately not a good thing....same applies to not attending the drivers meeting....we should probably take a quick head count at the meeting and check off names....I'll let brian and tom chime in....

I had a great bunch of people helping last year, but for some reason all the issues mentioned above are news to me other than the non-helmet wearing driver which was black flagged immediately, as I understood?
If on-track issues like this need attention, come to me or Scott Whitehead who is the lead instructor. Any help we can get, both on and off track from you all, are totally appreciated.

Brian

Lumpydogs · 07-19-2005, 04:51 PM

Brian,

I would like to officially offer my assistance at Gingerman in September.
I plan on camping out and should be there Friday Afternoon.

I'll be at Gingerman this weekend. Does anyone need me to get anything from the track?

I can't instruct but I can help register, set cones, paint numbers, whatever
it takes. Let me know!

You are correct, the last two years events were fantastic.

p.s. Sorry about bringing up some of the little issues from last year. I'm glad
that nobody seems to remember them but me.

ac427cobra · 07-19-2005, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobra-R

3. Bruce Cameron, Waukesha WI, 00 Cobra R (Z06 killa-bee)

Get it right there Mister!!

tgentry · 07-19-2005, 05:19 PM

Sounds like we'll have a little SCMC campfire jamboree!

**Cobra-R** · 07-19-2005, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumpydogs

Brian,

I would like to officially offer my assistance at Gingerman in September.
I plan on camping out and should be there Friday Afternoon.

I'll be at Gingerman this weekend. Does anyone need me to get anything from the track?

I can't instruct but I can help register, set cones, paint numbers, whatever
it takes. Let me know!

You are correct, the last two years events were fantastic.

p.s. Sorry about bringing up some of the little issues from last year. I'm glad
that nobody seems to remember them but me.

Jeff,
Last year was my first year attempting to fill Dean Smeltzers shoes as the organizer. Dean did a wonderful job and I feel bad that I was not able to take over as smoothly as it could have been, but we will do better this year. I know a little more what to expect and we will have more great help from members like you.

You help will be greatly appreciated. Its' too early to assign specific jobs, but lets all meet up at the track friday afternoon and we will get volunteers assigned.

Thanks, Brian

**Cobra-R** · 07-19-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ac427cobra

Get it right there Mister!!

Better be nice, Mike and I may have to double team you with yellow Z06's.

Brian

ac427cobra · 07-19-2005, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra-R

Better be nice, Mike and I may have to double team you with yellow Z06's.

Brian

Aint skeered!!

NJ2000R · 07-20-2005, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobra-R

Jeff,
Last year was my first year attempting to fill Dean Smeltzers shoes as the organizer. Dean did a wonderful job and I feel bad that I was not able to take over as smoothly as it could have been, but we will do better this year. I know a little more what to expect and we will have more great help from members like you.

You help will be greatly appreciated. Its' too early to assign specific jobs, but lets all meet up at the track friday afternoon and we will get volunteers assigned.

Thanks, Brian

brian, I thought you did an excellent job pulling things together....it was great to see members (and barb!)

step up and help with tech, reg, shirts, grid, instructing, etc etc....I'm sure it will all fall in place once again, and you can add karen and I to "helper list" as well....or is that the "I need help" list?

its been a busy busy week....no, make that year

NJ2000R · 07-20-2005, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra-R

Better be nice, Mike and I may have to double team you with yellow Z06's.

Brian

its a MUSTANG COBRA event.....not a BANANA convention!!!!!

damian_rx7 · 07-20-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NJ2000R

its a MUSTANG COBRA event.....not a BANANA convention!!!!!

add another banana to the list ;-)

NJ2000R · 07-20-2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by damian_rx7

add another banana to the list ;-)

at least its a member of the ford family!

07-15-2005, 09:16 AM	#76
Lumpydogs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 517	Just a few things that I thought Guest shouldn't do. One novice decided to have breakfast instead of attending the morning drivers meeting. Later he failed to acknowledge the black flag and then spun again at turn 2. Another experienced driver was giving rides to friends even though he was told not to. Eventually the track personel pulled him off the track. Finally a non-registered participant found his way into the drivers seat for a session or two. When the track personel caught him, he got lippy with them. These are all decent people but being business owners or the sons of business owners they have the mentallity that rules are for other people. In the past they have lost brakes, dropped fluid and blown motors on track due to failure to perform the required pre-event maintenance. I am probably over reacting but as guests of mine I was not happy with the way they behaved. I had already decided not to invite them back this year. (Let them tear up the Viper Club events without me) However, if we are in need of more drivers I can extend the invite. I figured that I would let the club decide if they are welcome. p.s. I am not a stick in the mud, but I do believe that the rules at the track need to be followed. __________________ Lumpydog 2001 Cobra Coupe NA Mod Motor 329 rwhp 344 rwtq www.lumpydogmotorsports.com

07-15-2005, 12:09 PM	#77
NJ2000R Certified FORD Fanatic! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NoRtheRn NJ Posts: 2,633	now that you mentioned it, I do remember hearing about someone driving that wasnt registered....definately not a good thing....same applies to not attending the drivers meeting....we should probably take a quick head count at the meeting and check off names....I'll let brian and tom chime in.... __________________ My Photos at Superford.org 2013 Grabber Blue Boss 302 #0003 2000 Cobra R #262 of 300 1995 Cobra R #223 of 250 (IMSA "Hacker Express" #00) 1993 Cobra R (SpeedVision World Challenge "Program Motorsports") 2014 Raptor - Ruby Red SE 1977 Bronco 1968 Mustang 428CJ 1966 Fairlanes - 500 and Squire 1936 Ford 5-window 'The Hot Rod'

07-15-2005, 01:08 PM	#78
tgentry Got Boost? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rockford, IL Posts: 608	I have been to other events where they have a roll call at the driver's meeting. You don't go to the meeting, you don't drive until the next meeting. This could be something to consider, at least for novices. __________________ Tom Gentry Life is too short for boring rides! '06 Schwinn StingRay Spoiler (3 speed conversion) '03 Giant Team ONCE (Campy goodness) '00 Bike E E2 Tandem (too many mods to list) '98 ProFlex Beast (no more elastomers) '06 Kustom Kruiser Roadster (8 speed conversion) '74 PPV (Resto-mod project) '98 E-150 Starcraft Heritage "Black Bart" '89 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL "Gunther"

07-19-2005, 04:51 PM	#81
Lumpydogs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 517	Brian, I would like to officially offer my assistance at Gingerman in September. I plan on camping out and should be there Friday Afternoon. I'll be at Gingerman this weekend. Does anyone need me to get anything from the track? I can't instruct but I can help register, set cones, paint numbers, whatever it takes. Let me know! You are correct, the last two years events were fantastic. p.s. Sorry about bringing up some of the little issues from last year. I'm glad that nobody seems to remember them but me. __________________ Lumpydog 2001 Cobra Coupe NA Mod Motor 329 rwhp 344 rwtq www.lumpydogmotorsports.com

07-19-2005, 05:19 PM	#83
tgentry Got Boost? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rockford, IL Posts: 608	Sounds like we'll have a little SCMC campfire jamboree! __________________ Tom Gentry Life is too short for boring rides! '06 Schwinn StingRay Spoiler (3 speed conversion) '03 Giant Team ONCE (Campy goodness) '00 Bike E E2 Tandem (too many mods to list) '98 ProFlex Beast (no more elastomers) '06 Kustom Kruiser Roadster (8 speed conversion) '74 PPV (Resto-mod project) '98 E-150 Starcraft Heritage "Black Bart" '89 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL "Gunther"

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