SVTOA going away??????

Admiral · 12-12-2005, 03:46 PM

You guys see this message about Ford dumping SVTOA?

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...d.php?t=239364

Might want to email them quick!

97CasperCobra · 12-12-2005, 04:20 PM

I think a lot of people don't see what their dues(as high as they may be) are going to. Our club, a bargain at $15/year, gets car shows, track events all backed by the club. I could compare SVTOA to SCMC all day and be blue in the face, but as I found out when searching for a club to join, I got the most out of my money by joining SCMC and have never looked back.

I really hope that they don't disban.....it seemed like they had some good times and really nice track events. And being backed by Ford is always a good thing.

Bartman01 · 12-12-2005, 05:35 PM

May be a loss nationally, but no great loss locally (no offense to the current members intended). Tried to join (the highly advertised free 1yr membership) when I got my car. My experience was as follows:

At the time, you couldn't get your free year online - so I spent several days trying to get someone to call me back. Finally got someone to call me, and got a packet mailed to me. Spent several hours filling it out and paid postage to send it in. End result: Never heard from them again - and never got my membership.

I did keep an eye out for events for a year or so, but all of the SVTOA events in this part of the country were in Dallas. Finally found SCMC, and never bothered to pay attention to SVTOA again. Don't have time for more than one car club.

In fairness to anyone who currently heads up the local SVTOA chapter, I have heard the the big problem we have here is a dealer network that is largely unwilling to participate in or promote the group. They never had a problem charging people 5-10000 over MSRP or denying warranty claims though.

Levi · 12-12-2005, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartman01

May be a loss nationally, but no great loss locally (no offense to the current members intended). Tried to join (the highly advertised free 1yr membership) when I got my car. My experience was as follows:

At the time, you couldn't get your free year online - so I spent several days trying to get someone to call me back. Finally got someone to call me, and got a packet mailed to me. Spent several hours filling it out and paid postage to send it in. End result: Never heard from them again - and never got my membership.

I did keep an eye out for events for a year or so, but all of the SVTOA events in this part of the country were in Dallas. Finally found SCMC, and never bothered to pay attention to SVTOA again. Don't have time for more than one car club.

In fairness to anyone who currently heads up the local SVTOA chapter, I have heard the the big problem we have here is a dealer network that is largely unwilling to participate in or promote the group. They never had a problem charging people 5-10000 over MSRP or denying warranty claims though.

Same thing happened to me.

SCMC ROCKS.

Codes · 12-12-2005, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartman01

May be a loss nationally, but no great loss locally (no offense to the current members intended). Tried to join (the highly advertised free 1yr membership) when I got my car. My experience was as follows:

At the time, you couldn't get your free year online - so I spent several days trying to get someone to call me back. Finally got someone to call me, and got a packet mailed to me. Spent several hours filling it out and paid postage to send it in. End result: Never heard from them again - and never got my membership.

I did keep an eye out for events for a year or so, but all of the SVTOA events in this part of the country were in Dallas. Finally found SCMC, and never bothered to pay attention to SVTOA again. Don't have time for more than one car club.

In fairness to anyone who currently heads up the local SVTOA chapter, I have heard the the big problem we have here is a dealer network that is largely unwilling to participate in or promote the group. They never had a problem charging people 5-10000 over MSRP or denying warranty claims though.

That is how I found this club. Lack of SVTOA doing stuff, but it's not their fault in the least, and the one thing I did do with them I had a blast.

John Chingasos · 12-12-2005, 06:42 PM

SVT should cut us a check and back up our events since we are so efficient. More bang for their buck

Levi · 12-13-2005, 11:15 AM

SVT started the renewed muscle car movement wave and FRPP will ride it out. I think Ford feels like they do not have to run head to head with (for example) Chrysler SRT production line. SVT will rely on are self motivation to keep it alive and we will, the ones that love Ford Mustangs. No special production line, just a Mustang and FRPP will have all the aftermarket and the competition locked up. If they kick a$$ on the track,,,,,,, enough said.

Codes · 12-13-2005, 11:50 AM

See, I feel that more than ever Ford needs SVT. When SVT was started there was no real competition in that price range. Now as the other Big Two are stepping up, they are coming out with fast sport compacts, coupes, 4 doors, and Ford is just laying down and taking it. Unless Ford is going to continue to release cars and trucks like the SVTF and the L to compete with the likes of Dodge, I don't see it winning the wars. The GT500 alone cannot carry Ford to victory. Right now Ford has nothing out or coming out the impresses me in the least, and its not just because its not SVT stuff, I would much rather take a new SRT-8 of any kind of the GT500, and give me a Ram SRT-10 over an Adrenaline any day. Of course this is all my opinion, and yes I do drive a Focus...but I think Ford needs to step up again if they want to keep up.

Admiral · 12-14-2005, 08:51 AM

I must profess my ignorance, because I was not aware that SCMC was independent of SVTOA. I guess because my experiences with SCMC and SVTOA here seem to always include the same folks I had incorrectly connected the two organizations.

All I can say is that I've truly enjoyed the time I've spent out with both organizations at the track. Time to step up and support SCMC by joining I'd imagine, but I don't own an SVT product so I'm a bit of an interloper.

ORANGE CRUSH · 12-14-2005, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi

Same thing happened to me.

SCMC ROCKS.

cobltng · 12-14-2005, 04:04 PM

I would have to agree with most of the above that locally they don't offer much and it is difficult for me to participate very much in the club I belong to, SCMC. I did send a reply concerning the possible demise of SVTOA. When we first took delivery of our Lightning SVTOA had a track event at Texas Motor speedway in Keller(Ft. Worth Texas ). We sent them an e-mail to see if it was too late to register, it was not so I registered on line and we left for Ft. Worth. The event was over the weekend and we had taken delivery of the L on Thursday. We had a good time and ironically that is the last Track event we have been to. SVTOA to me was just another link to the SVT product, nothing more. I got a couple of window stickers and a polished Stainless SVTOA lisense plate frame, oh and a key chain. That's it. I also agree that the Shelby 500 is not enough to pull the plow. Their new Marketing manager claims they intend to build 10,000 500's a year. and use a few as HALO vehicles at Dealers that qualify. What a joke. wonder who he thinks he is. Ford would need to sell somewhere in the range of 350,000 500's a quarter to satisfy the current situation at FORD.

**cobrabitn** · 12-14-2005, 11:03 PM

Admiral,

Yes, we the SCMC, are independent from SVTOA as we were founded in 1999. SVTOA was started in 2001. Lot's of things had transpired between 1999 and 2001 but basically the folks at SVT saw what was happening with SVT Cobra Mustang Club and wanted to do the same thing only on a much larger scale. That's quite a big task for anyone to take on even Ford Motor Company. They wanted the Lightning Club, Contour Club, and the two Cobra organizations to join together to form one large SVT club. As you can see, that didn't happen and we all stayed pretty much independent except for the sheep. You lose your identity when you have multiple makes in one club and that's pretty much the reason all the clubs stayed intact. I'm still wondering what John Coletti meant at the SVT Experience in 2000 when he told me "I've heard about you guys".

I also encourage you to let your next Mustang be an SVT Cobra then.....

97CasperCobra · 12-15-2005, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobrabitn

Admiral,

I also encourage you to let your next Mustang be an SVT Cobra then.....

Perhaps a '95 or '00 Cobra R???

**Firme** · 12-15-2005, 02:08 AM

official member or not, we love having you here Mike/Admiral

Admiral · 12-15-2005, 03:44 AM

Thanks for the info and kind words.

I have to tell you, I've been saving my pennies for a new Cobra since they announced them last year but after reading the latest R & T, well, I may pass. At 4150 lbs that thing is in desperate need of a diet. I may just have to continue down my path of taking perfectly good old Mustangs and gutting them into race cars lol.

A 95 R would be cool - till I went to hit the A/C in the summertime!

12-12-2005, 03:46 PM	#1
Admiral Got Track? Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 638	SVTOA going away?????? You guys see this message about Ford dumping SVTOA? http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...d.php?t=239364 Might want to email them quick! __________________ Mike Bell 2009 Mercury Grand Marquis (daily driver) 2008 F-350 DRW (tow vehicle) 2003 Mustang Mach 1 (race car) 1990 Spec Miata (race car) 1966 289 Cobra (V8 go-kart)

12-12-2005, 04:20 PM	#2
97CasperCobra GOT SVT?? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 4,890	I think a lot of people don't see what their dues(as high as they may be) are going to. Our club, a bargain at $15/year, gets car shows, track events all backed by the club. I could compare SVTOA to SCMC all day and be blue in the face, but as I found out when searching for a club to join, I got the most out of my money by joining SCMC and have never looked back. I really hope that they don't disban.....it seemed like they had some good times and really nice track events. And being backed by Ford is always a good thing. __________________ 1997 Mustang Cobra Member: "Texas Demon Hell Snakes who eat small children" secret society

12-12-2005, 05:35 PM	#3
Bartman01 Eat my shorts Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Northwest Houston Posts: 877	May be a loss nationally, but no great loss locally (no offense to the current members intended). Tried to join (the highly advertised free 1yr membership) when I got my car. My experience was as follows: At the time, you couldn't get your free year online - so I spent several days trying to get someone to call me back. Finally got someone to call me, and got a packet mailed to me. Spent several hours filling it out and paid postage to send it in. End result: Never heard from them again - and never got my membership. I did keep an eye out for events for a year or so, but all of the SVTOA events in this part of the country were in Dallas. Finally found SCMC, and never bothered to pay attention to SVTOA again. Don't have time for more than one car club. In fairness to anyone who currently heads up the local SVTOA chapter, I have heard the the big problem we have here is a dealer network that is largely unwilling to participate in or promote the group. They never had a problem charging people 5-10000 over MSRP or denying warranty claims though. __________________ Silver 2001 Cobra #3230 of 3867

12-12-2005, 06:42 PM	#6
John Chingasos Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jersey Village Area Posts: 832	SVT should cut us a check and back up our events since we are so efficient. More bang for their buck __________________ Member of the Texas Demon Hell Snakes who eat small children" secret society

12-13-2005, 11:15 AM	#7
Levi Hooked On Track Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,771	SVT started the renewed muscle car movement wave and FRPP will ride it out. I think Ford feels like they do not have to run head to head with (for example) Chrysler SRT production line. SVT will rely on are self motivation to keep it alive and we will, the ones that love Ford Mustangs. No special production line, just a Mustang and FRPP will have all the aftermarket and the competition locked up. If they kick a$$ on the track,,,,,,, enough said. __________________ Racing is life, Anything that happens before or after is just waiting... - Steve McQueen

12-13-2005, 11:50 AM	#8
Codes Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 317	See, I feel that more than ever Ford needs SVT. When SVT was started there was no real competition in that price range. Now as the other Big Two are stepping up, they are coming out with fast sport compacts, coupes, 4 doors, and Ford is just laying down and taking it. Unless Ford is going to continue to release cars and trucks like the SVTF and the L to compete with the likes of Dodge, I don't see it winning the wars. The GT500 alone cannot carry Ford to victory. Right now Ford has nothing out or coming out the impresses me in the least, and its not just because its not SVT stuff, I would much rather take a new SRT-8 of any kind of the GT500, and give me a Ram SRT-10 over an Adrenaline any day. Of course this is all my opinion, and yes I do drive a Focus...but I think Ford needs to step up again if they want to keep up. __________________ 2002 Silver SVT Focus (Silver) MBRP "Cat-Back" Exhaust Steeda STS 2003 Mustang Cobra 10th Ann (Silver) Stock 2004 Dodge SRT-4 (Silver) - SOLD!!

12-14-2005, 08:51 AM	#9
Admiral Got Track? Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 638	I must profess my ignorance, because I was not aware that SCMC was independent of SVTOA. I guess because my experiences with SCMC and SVTOA here seem to always include the same folks I had incorrectly connected the two organizations. All I can say is that I've truly enjoyed the time I've spent out with both organizations at the track. Time to step up and support SCMC by joining I'd imagine, but I don't own an SVT product so I'm a bit of an interloper. __________________ Mike Bell 2009 Mercury Grand Marquis (daily driver) 2008 F-350 DRW (tow vehicle) 2003 Mustang Mach 1 (race car) 1990 Spec Miata (race car) 1966 289 Cobra (V8 go-kart)

12-14-2005, 04:04 PM	#11
cobltng SCMC Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston NW Posts: 274	Svtoa / Scmc I would have to agree with most of the above that locally they don't offer much and it is difficult for me to participate very much in the club I belong to, SCMC. I did send a reply concerning the possible demise of SVTOA. When we first took delivery of our Lightning SVTOA had a track event at Texas Motor speedway in Keller(Ft. Worth Texas ). We sent them an e-mail to see if it was too late to register, it was not so I registered on line and we left for Ft. Worth. The event was over the weekend and we had taken delivery of the L on Thursday. We had a good time and ironically that is the last Track event we have been to. SVTOA to me was just another link to the SVT product, nothing more. I got a couple of window stickers and a polished Stainless SVTOA lisense plate frame, oh and a key chain. That's it. I also agree that the Shelby 500 is not enough to pull the plow. Their new Marketing manager claims they intend to build 10,000 500's a year. and use a few as HALO vehicles at Dealers that qualify. What a joke. wonder who he thinks he is. Ford would need to sell somewhere in the range of 350,000 500's a quarter to satisfy the current situation at FORD. __________________ Lightning Strike/00609

12-14-2005, 11:03 PM	#12
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,649	Admiral, Yes, we the SCMC, are independent from SVTOA as we were founded in 1999. SVTOA was started in 2001. Lot's of things had transpired between 1999 and 2001 but basically the folks at SVT saw what was happening with SVT Cobra Mustang Club and wanted to do the same thing only on a much larger scale. That's quite a big task for anyone to take on even Ford Motor Company. They wanted the Lightning Club, Contour Club, and the two Cobra organizations to join together to form one large SVT club. As you can see, that didn't happen and we all stayed pretty much independent except for the sheep. You lose your identity when you have multiple makes in one club and that's pretty much the reason all the clubs stayed intact. I'm still wondering what John Coletti meant at the SVT Experience in 2000 when he told me "I've heard about you guys". I also encourage you to let your next Mustang be an SVT Cobra then..... __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

12-15-2005, 03:44 AM	#15
Admiral Got Track? Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 638	Thanks for the info and kind words. I have to tell you, I've been saving my pennies for a new Cobra since they announced them last year but after reading the latest R & T, well, I may pass. At 4150 lbs that thing is in desperate need of a diet. I may just have to continue down my path of taking perfectly good old Mustangs and gutting them into race cars lol. A 95 R would be cool - till I went to hit the A/C in the summertime! __________________ Mike Bell 2009 Mercury Grand Marquis (daily driver) 2008 F-350 DRW (tow vehicle) 2003 Mustang Mach 1 (race car) 1990 Spec Miata (race car) 1966 289 Cobra (V8 go-kart)

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