Roll bar requirements

gcradic · 01-02-2007, 08:38 AM

Hey guys, I need a little direction. I plan to install a roll bar sometime this spring so I will be covered for timed events. That is of course, after I get my insurance squared away. But lets not drag that up again....

After talking with Stacey K a bit about his club events, it seems that a roll bar (or cage) meeting SCCA requirements or other sanctioned body will be sufficient for timed events (correct me if I'm wrong STACK).

What I don't want to do, is buy and install a system that will be OK for one type of event, but not others. Now this car is not my daily driver, so losing the rear seat or making entry & egress to the vehicle difficult is not that big a deal. I just don't want to get in "Bo and Luke Duke style".

I don't plan on doing any competition racing anytime soon either. I just want to be able to do the open track and maybe some lesser competitive events. Honestly, I need to spend some time with an in car instructor first.

I already have subframes, so here is my plan over the next few months...

1. Roll Bar (6 or 8 point)
2. Front & Rear strut tower bars (if available)
3. Sube Cobra Daytona Seats with brackets (stock 99 seats suck)
4. 5 point harness'
5. Drive shaft safety loop
6. Helmet, approved by whatever current standard is in force
7. Oil separator & breather (for PVC and TB, probably the JLT version)

Now I'm a noob at this, so please feel free to toss some constructive criticism my way. I'd like to know what you guys are using, and if you'd recommend it to others.

Thanks!

George

flynfink · 01-02-2007, 09:50 AM

Autopower 6 pt. is SCCA approved, will work for all open track sanctioning bodies and is bolt in. Just make sure to get the correct roll bar padding and install it correctly.

Stack · 01-26-2007, 10:03 AM

George... you are correct. And I'll say this too... our competitive requirements are usually more strict than almost any other club except SCCA. NASA, for example, does not require roll bars for their time trial competition. I personally think this is very negligent on their part... but thats another thread.

My point is, using our specs, it should keep you 'legal' for almost any competitive (but non-wheel-to-wheel) event. You don't even need to go 6-point if you don't want to... 4-point is our minimum for our time trials (as it is for SCCA Time Trials).

4-point makes every-day livability that much easier than a six point... and if you're still driving it on the street... a 4-point would be considered safer (in terms of things your head could hit in a street accident.)

We also are very particular on harness mounting... so if you can pass our specs, you will pass anyone elses and then some

gcradic · 01-27-2007, 06:09 AM

Thanks for the info Stacey. As you may have seen from an earlier post, I sold my Cobra and it's now being parted out. Check classifieds forum for more info if interested. I bought a 88 Saleen hatchback two days ago and need to get to a frame shop in MD for a cage quote when the weather breaks. I will take your advice and go with the 4 point since this will not be a track only car. While I'm out of the running for SVT track events now, I would still love to hook up with Triangle Z Club for VA track events this season or next.
Thanks again to everyone who has pitched in. It is unfortunate that I could not save #310 from it's eminent doom.

**cobrabitn** · 01-27-2007, 10:27 AM

George,

Our track events are open to anyone so I'm not sure what you meant by "While I'm out of the running for SVT track events now," unless you meant you didn't want to run at our events. Congrats on the Saleen!

gcradic · 01-27-2007, 07:30 PM

Sorry, I thought that since I no longer owned my SVT Cobra I would not be allowed to come out and play. As soon as I have her track worthy, I'll be looking for some action!

**cobrabitn** · 01-27-2007, 09:20 PM

The club policy is if you joined the SCMC owning an SVT Cobra and sell it but want to remain a club member, you can by keeping your membership current.

That means you can remain a member for as long as you like but if you let your membership lapse then you have to own a Cobra or GT 500 to get back in. We have several members that no longer own their Cobras but are still members and can still reap the benefits from the club. Some of them now own GMs but paid their membership for 5 years so they wouldn't lapse for that length of time. That means they can still reap the benefits of the club with reduced entry fees and club vendors.

Thanks,

Tony

01-02-2007, 08:38 AM	#1
gcradic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Etown, Pennsylvania Posts: 17	Roll bar requirements Hey guys, I need a little direction. I plan to install a roll bar sometime this spring so I will be covered for timed events. That is of course, after I get my insurance squared away. But lets not drag that up again.... After talking with Stacey K a bit about his club events, it seems that a roll bar (or cage) meeting SCCA requirements or other sanctioned body will be sufficient for timed events (correct me if I'm wrong STACK). What I don't want to do, is buy and install a system that will be OK for one type of event, but not others. Now this car is not my daily driver, so losing the rear seat or making entry & egress to the vehicle difficult is not that big a deal. I just don't want to get in "Bo and Luke Duke style". I don't plan on doing any competition racing anytime soon either. I just want to be able to do the open track and maybe some lesser competitive events. Honestly, I need to spend some time with an in car instructor first. I already have subframes, so here is my plan over the next few months... 1. Roll Bar (6 or 8 point) 2. Front & Rear strut tower bars (if available) 3. Sube Cobra Daytona Seats with brackets (stock 99 seats suck) 4. 5 point harness' 5. Drive shaft safety loop 6. Helmet, approved by whatever current standard is in force 7. Oil separator & breather (for PVC and TB, probably the JLT version) Now I'm a noob at this, so please feel free to toss some constructive criticism my way. I'd like to know what you guys are using, and if you'd recommend it to others. Thanks! George __________________ 1999 SVT Cobra # 310 of 4040 (313 rwhp & 313 ft/lb) http://www.mymustangsite.com/cursed99cobra/

01-02-2007, 09:50 AM	#2
flynfink Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 1,002	Autopower 6 pt. is SCCA approved, will work for all open track sanctioning bodies and is bolt in. Just make sure to get the correct roll bar padding and install it correctly. __________________ Jeff F. AKA FlynFink 07' Porscha Cayman S 99' Rio Red Cobra Vert. #203 of 4055 94' Black Cobra Coupe #4971 of 5009 "Drive it like ya stole it"

01-27-2007, 06:09 AM	#4
gcradic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Etown, Pennsylvania Posts: 17	Thanks Stacey Thanks for the info Stacey. As you may have seen from an earlier post, I sold my Cobra and it's now being parted out. Check classifieds forum for more info if interested. I bought a 88 Saleen hatchback two days ago and need to get to a frame shop in MD for a cage quote when the weather breaks. I will take your advice and go with the 4 point since this will not be a track only car. While I'm out of the running for SVT track events now, I would still love to hook up with Triangle Z Club for VA track events this season or next. Thanks again to everyone who has pitched in. It is unfortunate that I could not save #310 from it's eminent doom. __________________ 1999 SVT Cobra # 310 of 4040 (313 rwhp & 313 ft/lb) http://www.mymustangsite.com/cursed99cobra/

01-27-2007, 10:27 AM	#5
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,649	George, Our track events are open to anyone so I'm not sure what you meant by "While I'm out of the running for SVT track events now," unless you meant you didn't want to run at our events. Congrats on the Saleen! __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

01-27-2007, 07:30 PM	#6
gcradic Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Etown, Pennsylvania Posts: 17	Cool Sorry, I thought that since I no longer owned my SVT Cobra I would not be allowed to come out and play. As soon as I have her track worthy, I'll be looking for some action! __________________ 1999 SVT Cobra # 310 of 4040 (313 rwhp & 313 ft/lb) http://www.mymustangsite.com/cursed99cobra/

01-26-2007, 10:03 AM	#3
Stack Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 50	George... you are correct. And I'll say this too... our competitive requirements are usually more strict than almost any other club except SCCA. NASA, for example, does not require roll bars for their time trial competition. I personally think this is very negligent on their part... but thats another thread. My point is, using our specs, it should keep you 'legal' for almost any competitive (but non-wheel-to-wheel) event. You don't even need to go 6-point if you don't want to... 4-point is our minimum for our time trials (as it is for SCCA Time Trials). 4-point makes every-day livability that much easier than a six point... and if you're still driving it on the street... a 4-point would be considered safer (in terms of things your head could hit in a street accident.) We also are very particular on harness mounting... so if you can pass our specs, you will pass anyone elses and then some __________________ Stacy (Stack) King Owner/Manager... Asphalt Ventures HPDE co-chairman, event steward... Triangle Z Club/Tarheel Sports Car Club

01-27-2007, 09:20 PM	#7
cobrabitn Dr Jekyll on the street, Mr Hyde on the track Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 14,649	The club policy is if you joined the SCMC owning an SVT Cobra and sell it but want to remain a club member, you can by keeping your membership current. That means you can remain a member for as long as you like but if you let your membership lapse then you have to own a Cobra or GT 500 to get back in. We have several members that no longer own their Cobras but are still members and can still reap the benefits from the club. Some of them now own GMs but paid their membership for 5 years so they wouldn't lapse for that length of time. That means they can still reap the benefits of the club with reduced entry fees and club vendors. Thanks, Tony __________________ Cobrabitn 2016 Ruby Red Metallic with Caribou accent F-350 Crew Cab Stump Puller! 6.7 Diesel Automatic with Chrome Package, Off Road Package, 3.55 Locking axles, and Ultimate Lariat Interior Trim Package! 2017 Shelby GT350 Coupe - track car! Mods: JLT True Cold Air oil catch can 2009 Vista Blue Shelby GT 500 Coupe - Garage Queen Tinted Windows JLT True Cold Air Kit Pro-Dyno Tune 526 rwhp - 511 rwtq 1994 Rio Red Indy Pace Car #22 "Runabout" Snake in the grill MGW shift knob 1996 SVT Cobra Wheels 1969 New Lime Mustang Mach 1 Sportsroof - Second owner - bone stock with shaker. One SVT Cobra, one Shelby GT500, one 69 mach 1, and a Shelby GT350 is better than nothing! Custom Data Plates for your Mustang or Ford! Buy "Cool Merchandise" at Data Plates Plus www.dataplatesplus.com See my MSR Video here!

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